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  • #31
    Re: New Qualifying Record

    Airbus,no not Voodo, Streag !!

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    • #32
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      Any video of that run by Strega?

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      • #33
        Re: New Qualifying Record

        Originally posted by johnnyrace View Post
        I understand the course change and all...But the event is the Reno Air Races and course change or not Strega just put up an official qualifying number faster than any before in this event...it's the record...
        By the numbers only yes, but the problem is... the value of those numbers have changed. How does it really count then?

        As far as what you could legitimately call a "record" qualification time, the year before the change (2002) Dago Red ran 497.787. So, rounding up for the current timing method, the standings are:

        1. Dago Red 507.743 (Skip Holm, 2002)
        2. Rare Bear 501.091 (John Penney, 1996)
        3. Dago Red 499.8+ (David Price, 1996*)
        4. Strega 499.160 (Steve Hinton Jr, 2011)

        *Couldn't find the exact number, but know it was 490 and change.

        Not like a qualifying "record" means a hill of beans anyway, but still...
        Last edited by RichH; 09-12-2011, 07:29 PM.

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        • #34
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          500 MPH at Reno is better than anything they can do on the ground that I have seen. I've never been to Bonneville.
          Good Luck all ya'll! May the "TORQUE" be with you.

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          • #35
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            Originally posted by RichH View Post
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            3. Dago Red 499.8+ (David Price, 2006*)
            David Price in 2006?
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            Tom Johnson,
            Aviation Insurance Broker / Yak 50 Owner
            www.airpowerinsurance.com

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            • #36
              Re: New Qualifying Record

              Your "2006" speeds I think should read 1996.

              Dago's speed that year was 490.826.

              Just for fun, below is a study in what it would have taken (in seconds) to qualify at 500 mph on the different length courses over the last 40 years:

              1971-1975 9.815 70.668 = 500.000

              1976-1978 9.80 70.56 = 500.000

              1979 9.82 70.704 = 500.000

              1980 9.006 64.843 = 500.002

              1981 9.273 66.765 = 500.004

              1982-1984 9.187 66.146 = 500.003

              1985-1987 9.222 66.398 = 500.003

              1988-1989 9.171 66.031 = 500.002

              1990-1996 9.128 65.721 = 500.005

              1997-1999 9.125 65.7 = 500.000

              2000-2002 8.2688 59.535 = 500.003

              2003-2007 8.4803 61.058 = 500.001 – 2% = 490.001

              2008-2011 8.4333 60.719 = 500.006 – 2% = 490.006

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              • #37
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                "1. Dago Red 507.743 (Skip Holm, 2002)"

                I would agree, but I think that is still conservative.

                Run Dago's 2002 lap time, with what I believe was the actual course size at that time, of about 8.2 miles (give or take a whisker!) , and you'll come up with near 511mph.

                In that light, #7 has done this kind if speed in Q's at least twice,
                #77 three times, and #4 four times! And pushing it real close was M. Brown in '06, only a half dozen or so mph slower than today's "new" record.


                Does anyone know when the last pylon was moved? I believe there we're some small changes a few years ago?

                JT

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                • #38
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                  Originally posted by tjyak50 View Post
                  David Price in 2006?
                  Originally posted by Lowell View Post
                  Your "2006" speeds I think should read 1996.
                  Right... brain fog. (GAH!) Corrected!

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                  • #39
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                    Not sure I go for the what if's and theory stuff and besides Steven had his window down and elbow sticking out. Thanks, KC

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                    • #40
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                      Cooler than Haill, I finally got the inspiration to make Reno 2004 because of the internet hype of Dago Red and 500 MPH. My girlfriend went along and helped with expenses. She loves it. She drove across the Sierra's with white knuckles as the snow fell back to Sacramento. This is our third year in the Checkered Flag Club and she loves it! She loves it so much, talking about how much I love it, don't much matter.
                      Ain't I lucky.
                      She can cross the eyes of a black bass too.
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                      • #41
                        Re: New Qualifying Record

                        Good on Strega and the crew- Congrats!!

                        As far as "Virtual" course speeds Vs. old course records or calculation methods seems to me to be irrelevant so long as everyone is held to the same rules at that time. NASCAR measures their tracks- as I recall- 15 feet down from the outside wall. No one complains if a drivers runs around the bottom while qualifying, and no one got bent out of shape when all tracks added safer barriers to the outside walls- which obviously would have changed their physical course lengths if the 15 foot method was recalculated; and no one said we now need to "Astrict" track records based on a change in distance (Speed= Distance/Time).

                        Nobody flies- or drives, "exact" course distance- EVER! back then or now. "Virtual" course change is a myth.......and I aint teach'n 8th grade math......figure it out on your own.

                        CC
                        "Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." Albert Einstein

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                        • #42
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                          Yea !
                          But for eight laps !!
                          M

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                          • #43
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                            Originally posted by Jason S. View Post
                            Will just went out and finally broke the 400 barrier in Steadfast at 400.452
                            Jason
                            Will has skilz!

                            you go Will!
                            Wayne Sagar
                            "Pusher of Electrons"

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                            • #44
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                              Ghost just did 465.8 on their second lap.

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                              • #45
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                                Pretty nice lap by Sawbones, a mild 420s run!

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