Biplane down 09/11/07

[skybolt2003]

Re: Biplane down

What?! What did he say?
Was the RP-5 a radical design? I've never seen any pictures of it. I saw a picture of another Rose plane with twin tandem V-8's.

[Race5]

Re: Biplane down

The fuselage was pretty straight forward, but it had very thin wings that were short chord wise as well. I am not sure what the stall / landing speeds were on that thing, but it had to be a handfull when everything was working correctly.

[skybolt2003]

Re: Biplane down

did it use that prop that looked a little like a used attic fan also?

[Race5]

Re: Biplane down

did it use that prop that looked a little like a used attic fan also?

Nope....rather conventional two blader. It was built and raced before the LIPPS props that Phantom, and Miss G are using.

[skybolt2003]

Re: Biplane down

Well, there's a couple of things that would help the stall speed. The plane was light weight and that directly translates to a lower stall speed. Also, the pilot was a fighter pilot from what I understand. I'm sure landing at 120 knots would be more than what the biplane landed at. There's also a part 23 requirement for landing speeds, and although this is not a part 23 airplane, it's probably not too far off in speeds. I'd say 70 knot max landing speed. Your day 1 pilot can pretty much deal with that.

It was experimental so part 23 doesn't apply. who knows what it would land at. think about how short coupled a plane like that is, and then imagine how pitch sensitive it would be.

[Bob]

Re: Biplane down

Nope....rather conventional two blader. It was built and raced before the LIPPS props that Phantom, and Miss G are using.

I have some pics of this plane and its prop, the pilot claimed it was an unducted fan type prop, its diameter was very small. The owner of Phantom, a tall slender and very gracious man also said it was an unducted fan. I will get these pics devoloped today and scan one in.

[mosquito]

Re: Biplane down

Oh my god, this thread has caused me YET ANOTHER panic attack....

Pretty please Wayne, can you change the the thread title? Maybe, '9/11/07 Biplane accident discussion'?

My wife screamed from the other room yesterday when _she_ got snookered... and I just did again, for the 3rd time..

-mosquito

[skybolt2003]

Re: Biplane down

I have some pics of this plane and its prop, the pilot claimed it was an unducted fan type prop, its diameter was very small. The owner of Phantom, a tall slender and very gracious man also said it was an unducted fan. I will get these pics devoloped today and scan one in.

That sounds like what I saw on the other Rose racer. I'd love to see the pictures you have.
Tom Aberle of Phantom is a great guy. He's got that easy unassuming confidence you'd expect in a racer. (I've known him for a long time - learned to fly with his dad, so I'm a little biased I guess)