Race 86 Czech Mate Engine Mods

[RAD2LTR]

Re: Race 86 Czech Mate Engine Mods

When Bob Yancey first built the Yak did he take the R2800 off of Ole Blue and use it on the Yak and was it an R2800 CB-17?

From what I have heard, he pulled the engine off the Corsair and went racing.

Will

[Jan]

Re: Race 86 Czech Mate Engine Mods

I assume you're referring to Craig Hutain. Craig attended PRS a few years ago, I wonder why that never materialized into racing anything

Yes, it's Hutain. Craig wanted to race. There's a story there but I'm not the one to tell it.

[Reever]

Re: Race 86 Czech Mate Engine Mods

When Bob Yancey first built the Yak did he take the R2800 off of Ole Blue and use it on the Yak and was it an R2800 CB-17?

[GRNDP51]

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Watching Lyle land/taxi/t.o. Rare Bear and Bob, then Smoot, etc do the same with CzM was entertainment on its own. I've been chatting with the owner/pilot of the only surviving P-63F this week who also flies a P-39. Interestingly both are pretty demanding in the same phases of operation. Most - BellCobraIV aside - might think that their tricycle configuration would make them a comparative breeze.

Apparently not. Can you say free-castering nose wheel and differential braking?

The P-63 this gent flies/owns has raced three times. First in the 1946 Thompson Trophy, the second time in 1976 with Jack Flaherty qualifying and Steve Hinton hurling it around the sticks, and then again in 1978 I think it was, when the Whittingtons owned it. Don flew the F and Precious Metal, Bill flew their H model Mustang.

I assume you're referring to Craig Hutain. Craig attended PRS a few years ago, I wonder why that never materialized into racing anything

[AAFO_WSagar]

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Yes its always been a handful, very pitch sensitive, essentially zero forward visibility on takeoff or landing, and must take off and land from a 3 point attitude so the prop doesn't strike.


Very much like Rare Bear Bob and Lyle played sit in each other's cockpits at an event one time. Lyle thought that if improvements could be made to the wing (which eventually happened) the YAK would make a real great racer.


John

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[Jan]

Re: Race 86 Czech Mate Engine Mods

Yes its always been a handful, very pitch sensitive, essentially zero forward visibility on takeoff or landing, and must take off and land from a 3 point attitude so the prop doesn't strike.


Very much like Rare Bear Bob and Lyle played sit in each other's cockpits at an event one time. Lyle thought that if improvements could be made to the wing (which eventually happened) the YAK would make a real great racer.


John

Watching Lyle land/taxi/t.o. Rare Bear and Bob, then Smoot, etc do the same with CzM was entertainment on its own. I've been chatting with the owner/pilot of the only surviving P-63F this week who also flies a P-39. Interestingly both are pretty demanding in the same phases of operation. Most - BellCobraIV aside - might think that their tricycle configuration would make them a comparative breeze.

Apparently not. Can you say free-castering nose wheel and differential braking?

The P-63 this gent flies/owns has raced three times. First in the 1946 Thompson Trophy, the second time in 1976 with Jack Flaherty qualifying and Steve Hinton hurling it around the sticks, and then again in 1978 I think it was, when the Whittingtons owned it. Don flew the F and Precious Metal, Bill flew their H model Mustang.

[MRE]

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When Bob first raced the Yak he ran T-28 A blades. That made the prop around ten feet in dia.

[BellCobraIV]

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It has never raced with an R2000. When Bob Yancy brought it to Reno the first time, it had the firewall forward off his Corsair with a different, much shorter prop.

Yes its always been a handful, very pitch sensitive, essentially zero forward visibility on takeoff or landing, and must take off and land from a 3 point attitude so the prop doesn't strike.

Will

Yes its always been a handful, very pitch sensitive, essentially zero forward visibility on takeoff or landing, and must take off and land from a 3 point attitude so the prop doesn't strike.


Very much like Rare Bear Bob and Lyle played sit in each other's cockpits at an event one time. Lyle thought that if improvements could be made to the wing (which eventually happened) the YAK would make a real great racer.


John

[RAD2LTR]

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Wasn't it said that CzM was more than a handful to control back when it had the R2000? Seems like it was always on the ragged edge, which is cool and all. This thing must be like a sprint car in the air!

It has never raced with an R2000. When Bob Yancy brought it to Reno the first time, it had the firewall forward off his Corsair with a different, much shorter prop.

Yes its always been a handful, very pitch sensitive, essentially zero forward visibility on takeoff or landing, and must take off and land from a 3 point attitude so the prop doesn't strike.

Will

[supercub]

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Every time it lands, I hold my breath !!

[marada mx3]

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Wasn't it said that CzM was more than a handful to control back when it had the R2000? Seems like it was always on the ragged edge, which is cool and all. This thing must be like a sprint car in the air!

[Race5]

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Do they run ADI?

Yes. They do run ADI.

[boomtown]

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They are limited by prop more than engine. The engines they use are just high quality rebuilds with an eye toward not blowing them up instead of making the most power possible.

Do they run ADI?

[Race5]

Re: Race 86 Czech Mate Engine Mods

They are limited by prop more than engine. The engines they use are just high quality rebuilds with an eye toward not blowing them up instead of making the most power possible.

[GeeBeeZ1931]

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I don't know that I've ever seen a really in depth rundown of what all has been done to CM's R2800. It might be an interesting read if someone knows.

Will

Several years ago I asked and was told they just dropped in a 2500 HP factory engine. After all they are the greatest American piston aircraft engine you can get. I had wondered why not the 2800 HP one but believe I was told it wasn't needed. I don't remember if this was Bob Yancy that told me this or Sherm? However it was before its top qual speed of 464 not so long ago. This is a several years old memory so maybe not perfect. However with a 464 mph lap speed I think that means they can hit 500 or more on the straight shots and brothers and sisters that aint hay for a little modified trainer. If some body can please refresh my memory I can remember they took 2nd Gold once or twice and can't remember if they ever got 1st. Seems like one of these was because of pylon cut(S) but still got the well earned position.