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    Default Miss Ashley II

    I was just reading throught the Raceplane tech griffon book and was wondering if it was ever determined what caused the tail to seperate. The book doesn't really say much about it. Also what happened to the aircraft after the accident? Where is it now?
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    Default Re: Miss Ashley II

    Here is a picture of the accident, we still miss you Gary.
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    Default Re: Miss Ashley II

    if i'm not mistaken it was caused by tail buffetting, it passed over me as it crossed home pylon and there was definetly movement going on with that plane

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    A very sad day at Reno that will always stand out in my mind.
    If you want more information on the accident you can read the factual report from the NTSB website.

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    Default Re: Miss Ashley II

    Also what happened to the aircraft after the accident? Where is it now?
    I would have to assume that it was scrapped, as there really wasn't anything left to salvage or rebuild, and saving pieces of it as souvenirs would seem somewhat ghoulish to me....I can't say for sure though.

    If you don't have AdobeAcrobat, or don't want to view a PDF file, you can read the full report on the following NTSB webpage. It would appear to be the same text:

    http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?...99FA311&akey=1


    The last line of the report states:
    "The aircraft wreckage was released to Mr. Robert Norris, adjuster for Universal Loss Management on December 6, 1999."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpine
    I was just reading thought the Raceplane tech griffon book and was wondering if it was ever determined what caused the tail to separate. The book doesn't really say much about it.
    Sometimes there is no definitive cause to a structural failure since there are so many forces acting upon it, thus it can become impossible to determine with 100% certainty that any one issue was the root cause. That, along with respecting the memory of the late Gary Levitz, his survivors & friends by not speculating or creating unsubstantiated rumors is why I feel Kevin & Nick did not go into detail - and I highly commend them for their decisions on keeping strictly to the facts.

    The NTSB report covers the pertinent information, and is the only publicly released information on the accident - and will more then likely remain so. In any accident investigation - the NTSB refrains from publicly releasing anything but facts unless they are 100% certain of the cause of the accident, and as it should be.

    I would like to hope that we can leave this at that - and not engage in speculation. The memory of this tragedy is still very painful to many individuals connected to the sport of air racing.

    We miss you Gary

    Mark K....

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    Thanks for all the replys. The NTSB report answered the questions I had. A very sad day, one hopefully never repeated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra


    Nice picture, there, Markster! :-) You must have been standing next to me that morning on the ramp (they all blend together after so many years), but that is an identical 'still' photo of my video from Bradfire '98. Taken that great Saturday morning when Dago, MAII, Risky Business, Southern Cross, and Val Halla all went out and tested during the Dawn Patrol. The sunrise was one of the best I've ever seen, and the sky was SO blue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by speeddemon
    Nice picture, there, Markster! :-) You must have been standing next to me that morning on the ramp (they all blend together after so many years), but that is an identical 'still' photo of my video from Bradfire '98. Taken that great Saturday morning when Dago, MAII, Risky Business, Southern Cross, and Val Halla all went out and tested during the Dawn Patrol. The sunrise was one of the best I've ever seen, and the sky was SO blue!
    You have a very good memory Brad.... yes, that was Reno 98 - dawn patrol... and I do remember standing right next to you (we did that alot didn't we ). Good times bro
    Mark K....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpine
    Thanks for all the replys. The NTSB report answered the questions I had. A very sad day, one hopefully never repeated.
    What I found revealing was the picture of the prop governor leaking oil...some years back. A major malfunction in the contrarotating propellor system would most likely affect a heavy vibration first in the tailfeathers and when they are gone...the end is inevitable.

    This is again just an assumption, but not totally baseless.


    just my two ( euro ) cents,

    Juke

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