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    Default Are Griffon engined racers the answer?

    There are plenty of Griffon engines around and they are usually more reliable. Amazingly only a handful of racers have used the Griffon engine and they have had good but not great rounds. Miss Ashley II was very aerodynamically sleek. Though it never won it was always at the top. Precious Metal and Roto-Finish/Red Barron had more success setting records and winning races. Could so little interest mean the Griffon engine is not the answer? How will Precious Metal do this year and in the following years? Any more Griffon powered racers in the near future?

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    just a note jarrod, precious metal has only won one race, the bronze last year at 407 mph, good work Ron! .

    when i was first learning how to design my own racer, i thought inside the box, meaning a mustang derivitive. on my old computer i have a modified picture of precious metal (along with a picture of an actual model of the design) showing what my dream for the future was, griffon powered, boil off cooled mustang wannabe with an exceedingly huge tail and an exceedingly small wing. the problem with the griffon i found is that it's an old, heavy design which costs alot of money to install into a mustang airframe. that's not to say it's a bad engine that can't produce mondo hp, it can but the cubic dollars required to install one (building new mounts and new plumbing), modifying and feeding it is not worth the money in the short term, remember these guys are not infinitely rich.

    as for how precious metal this year, i think she'll do well, ron's not gonna pull all the stops out but the plane i think will place well.

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    Precious metal also won the Silver in Pheonix and Silver in Reno both in 1995. After the rebuild.
    Jarrod

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    d'oh, i never went to phoenix which is why i didn't remember, thanks.

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    I didn't either, I read it in the book Griffon Powered Mustangs.
    Jarrod

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt
    as for how precious metal this year, i think she'll do well, ron's not gonna pull all the stops out but the plane i think will place well.

    Must be the nose art!

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    First, I must preface this by saying I don't think there's too many things that look or sound better than a Griffon powered Mustang. That said, I think the achiles heel of that design is the weight and fuel burn, as well as said cost. I had heard that Strega was ultimately supposed to be powered by a Griffon, then I went down to Shafter and saw the engine that they had. It's a monster! The thing was so much bigger than a Merlin that I (and they) don't think they would have gained any more speed, but would have burned way more fuel. I would have loved to see Strega with a Griffon and an "H" tail (would've registered a 10 on the cool factor) but I really think they got it right the first time with the mouse motor!

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    Just looking up some info on the Griffon engine and found a site that has some good information on the Griffon that was flown on the Red Baron. Here is the link some good information in it www.home.aone.net.au/shack_one/rolls.htm

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    Default Re: Are Griffon engined racers the answer?

    When can we see new griffon engined racers with maby new engine tech??
    And when do we see a racers do 600 mph??


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    We already did at Mojave in 1973. Three F-86's on a 15 mile course, pulling close to their G limit, went 600 to 636 depending on the rated thrust.

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