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    Default Race Class Registration Update

    As of today, here's the breakdown of the number of registered racers per class:

    Biplane: 19
    F1: 16
    T6: 16
    Sport: 36
    STOL: 25
    Jets: 18
    UNL: 16

    I have no idea who has registered in each class, just the totals.

    Now, if we can just catch a break with the weather/fires. More than anything for 2021, that is what concerns me most. It wreaks havoc on schedule Mon-Wed as BLM Base Op's at KRTS are priority traffic which requires us to suspend all action on the race course (place racers in the Hold, delay taxiing, etc.) while we launch the ers. If the fire is close to KRTS, the turn times can be so short that it makes it very challenging to get folks qualified.

    And once the BLM Ops have moved out of KRTS (contractually obligated to reposition after Wed noon of Race Week), the issue becomes visibility.

    Keep you finger crossed the weather and fire gods give us a break...
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    Default Re: Race Class Registration Update

    That looks pretty darn good! We'll deal with the weather when we get there. I have a good lucky feeling about this year!!!


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    Default Re: Race Class Registration Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Air Boss View Post
    As of today, here's the breakdown of the number of registered racers per class:

    Biplane: 19
    F1: 16
    T6: 16
    Sport: 36
    STOL: 25
    Jets: 18
    UNL: 16

    I have no idea who has registered in each class, just the totals.

    Now, if we can just catch a break with the weather/fires. More than anything for 2021, that is what concerns me most. It wreaks havoc on schedule Mon-Wed as BLM Base Op's at KRTS are priority traffic which requires us to suspend all action on the race course (place racers in the Hold, delay taxiing, etc.) while we launch the ers. If the fire is close to KRTS, the turn times can be so short that it makes it very challenging to get folks qualified.

    And once the BLM Ops have moved out of KRTS (contractually obligated to reposition after Wed noon of Race Week), the issue becomes visibility.

    Keep you finger crossed the weather and fire gods give us a break...
    Thanks for the update Owen, so far great numbers!!! 16 Unlimited is nice! F1 seems a little light for all of the hype and rookies lately, I assume we will get some more. Impressive numbers from the rest of the classes too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRNDP51 View Post
    Thanks for the update Owen, so far great numbers!!! 16 Unlimited is nice! F1 seems a little light for all of the hype and rookies lately, I assume we will get some more. Impressive numbers from the rest of the classes too!
    One factor that hopefully will no longer be an issue is those racers who live in Canada are currently prohibited from crossing the border. I believe that will be resolved before too long.

    I am very optimistic about 2021...keep the faith!
    Owen Ashurst
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    Thanks for posting this and keeping AAFO in the know.


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    Assuming the classes with 16 and 18 racers stay the same how will the heats break down?

    I know IF1 has run with place holders before to deal with a partial heat.
    "young" Thomas

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    Quote Originally Posted by CubersWrist View Post
    Assuming the classes with 16 and 18 racers stay the same how will the heats break down?

    I know IF1 has run with place holders before to deal with a partial heat.
    I would think since BIP ran 18 last year with only 2 heats then F1 can too if they stay below 18 (even though the rule book says max BIP can run is 8, they ran 9 last year). T-6 has always been 3 heats because of the start, so I would think that'll remain as is.

    Owen, if there is any way to get some time back, would limiting BIP and F1 to only 2 heats help? From BIP's entries this year you may need a Bronze, and considering most of the fans aren't even at Stead when these are running it seems a little excessive (nothing against ANYONE that races, just a point). This would create that competitive scene for the slower guys to work on getting in the Top 18 like you've discussed here before.

    F1: Top 18 (2 heats)
    BIP: Top 18 (2 heats)
    T-6 Top 21 (3 heats)
    Jet: Top 24 (3 heats)
    UNL: Top 27 (3 heats) 18 or below = 2 heats
    Sport: Top 36 (4 heats)
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    Not sure how they'd break down, but yes it would help.

    I've been a proponent of reducing the total number of heats across the board. That's no secret to anyone on this forum, nor to RARA. The event is simply too long and drawn out. Hard core fans love it and I completely understand that...110%. But those folks are not who RARA needs to draw. Again, just one simple man's opinion. And yeah...I know...I'm the Performer Boss so "...OF COURSE he wants more airshow!" Yes, but not for those reasons, as I've stated innumerable times here and to the Board.

    Reno has a "good problem" that many shows would like to have. Too many acts (racing and performers) and too little time.

    I don't wish to be the "I know something you don't know" guy (not my style) but suffice to say we've been approached by more than one high-profile military act recently, seeking to perform at Reno in 2021. We simply do not have the time, as currently configured. Unless and until changes and concessions are made (for example, I've argued that we start at 0730, not 0800) and there is a reconfiguration of the heat racing from Wed thru Sat, that will continue to be the case.

    The airshow component takes approximately 3:00 hours out of a 9:30 day at Reno. Should a more equitable balance be drawn? One could make a pretty strong argument along those lines. From both an entertainment and financial point of view.

    This is not to say RARA has rejected my suggestions. They haven't. But one must understand that RARA is much like the proverbial aircraft carrier...it takes a while to turn that thing around! Not unlike any other organization that's been around for half a century or more.
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    I personally don?t think Reno needs anymore than the Thunderbirds and F-35 in a single year. Would another demo team sway anyone to come more than they want to already? Probably unlikely. And if it would change things, why do we need civilian performers to take up time? I help with Thunder Over Michigan planning and they don?t have ONE civilian performer planned this year. It?s stacked and overflowing with military and warbirds and that?s it, and they?re going to sell out of insanely overpriced tickets too.

    Cut the civilian stuff, cut the number of heats to nourish stiffer competition, start at 7:30.
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    I am usually either in the pits or ramp sitting. Most people that pony up the bread for a pit pass, while not all hard core fans, have an interest in the planes. They are the ones crowding the barricades during the races and wandering around during the show portions. But sit on the ramp and listen to where the ooohs and aaahs are during the day and you see that the show is a big draw for the casual visitor. Especially the big loud jets. The hard core fans will show up if one racer is on the course, rain, shine, wind, snow. I've done them all. But we are a small group (relatively) and the masses they need out there to support this thing want flash and noise. Most of them don't know the difference between an F-16 and a P-51 but they know what they like and RARA has to cater to them to survive. It is an expensive undertaking to drag the tribe out there for the day and they expect to be entertained or they will not be back.
    Would I like more racing and less show, sure, but I am a minority in the bigger picture of the event so I take what I get from it. If I have to see a few more flip-flops or see yet another F-18 show then so be it if it keeps the event viable.
    Just my $0.02, and probably not worth even that.

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