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Interview with Nick Macy
By: Naomi West

Part II

Back to pilot stuff! We were curious about what it’s like in the cockpit; are there any air-cooling or ventilation systems? Macy told us, "We don’t want any air moving in there, because if air leaks in, you get parasitic drag and so you should caulk it up; there shouldn’t be any air moving. When you close that glass and the sun beats down and it’s 90 degrees outside, it gets pretty hot!" He continued with, "..by the end of the race, you can really feel the heat coming through the firewall, because you’re sitting right behind it."

We commented that with all that heat in the cockpit, we notice that Nick is one of the pilots in the T-6 Class who always wears a helmet.

Macy responded: "Even in the air, when we hit severe turbulence, and you bang your head on the glass…I think the safety end is well worth what you get out of it."

We noted earlier that the AT-6 class provides some of the closest competition at Reno. This year, the "T-6’ers" had extremely close qualifying times, less than one second apart for the top 4 contenders at R2K.

Author’s Note:

Race 47, "Frostbite" Jack Frost Qual Time = 76.20

Race 6, "Six-Cat" Nick Macy Qual Time = 77.36

Race 21, "Mystical Power" Tom Campau Qual Time = 77.80

We asked Macy about the competition this year and immediately, he mentioned Tom Campau, pilot of Race #21, Mystical Power.

"That airplane has always been fast…and he was right there, not that far away from us and actually, Jack (Jack Frost, pilot of Race 47, "Frostbite") was faster then we are but he was not that far away either. That’s one thing about down there that makes it so exciting, we are all so close. Because qualifying is very important for our class, we are always trying get the best day the best [qualifying] period.. and sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn’t. "

Interestingly enough, when we talked about how perfect the AT-6 starts are, and how close they race – almost like formation racing – the topic of camaraderie comes up again.

According to Macy, "That’s the one thing that’s so nice... I mean, everybody does a good job, and the camaraderie that you get – everybody’s a good pilot and it makes it a bit more comfortable, because you know you can trust the people that you are flying with. They wouldn’t be out there if they weren’t good pilots in the first place. They all do a good job."

It’s no surprise that Macy is so highly respected and is known as "genuinely" one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet in air racing!

We talked about Steve Dilda, president of the AT-6 class, and possibly the hardest working man for the class. Macy gave us the big smile and said " Yeah, he does a really great job, and I think that you get in to it – and guys, you get into a certain amount of politics that goes on because of the competitiveness between people – and Steve does a such a good job of overhearing that and picking through that...plus the fact he’s interfacing with Reno and all that that goes on...I don’t think those guys get enough credit for what they put out for…they don’t get enough thanks for letting us go out and be the glory hogs, is what it comes down to."

Macy added that, "He (Dilda) doesn’t get any recognition out if it, but he’s really the guy that we rely on. If we don’t get good starts, then everything is screwed up. He’s also the guy there, that if you have a problem, then all you have to do is call him and he’s there to help you out and he’s a good pilot. So that takes a lot of pressure off you."

(Author's Note: Steve is also the voice on the radio that lines up the AT-6 starts. If you haven’t ever listened to the pilot chatter of an AT-6 start, you are really missing out. One has to wonder if Steve Dilda wasn’t an auctioneer in a previous lifetime. Steve has also been one of the key players in gaining more attention for the AT-6 class by enlisting Mark Johnston [Official website of the Reno Air Race Association webmaster] to update and retool the AT-6 website for the Internet at http://www.racingt-6.org)

We talked more about the AT-6 Class and the changes throughout the years. Macy told us, "The most exciting thing about that is, Reno is growing and when I first started – we didn’t know exactly when our slot was in a race and I know one time when we launched, we launched for the next start and Bob Hoover had the number one and number two acts – we launched before the number one and he thought he was supposed to do all his acts, so we had to fly around till he finished all his acts before we could come down.

We were out there flying around trying to waste time and we didn’t have a minimum fuel requirement then – and I was like the number four guy in the pack – and I was even sweatin’ it! I had my hand on it, because I had minimum fuel – like Bingo fuel in one tank and my race fuel in the other tank and – and I was watching the bingo tank and wondering: 'Gosh, if I run out of fuel in this tank, am I’m gonna have enough fuel to finish the race and everything ?' And that’s when we came up with the 50 gal minimum fuel. Now, it’s so nice when we take off and join up, go out and turn around, and come back in – we all know it’s only a couple of minutes and we could probably get away with less fuel."

After a week of flying one of the fastest T-6 racers in the world, in competition at Reno, we wondered what is the ride back home like?

Macy smiled again and said, "It’s amazing! All week long you’re listening to that tune of 2500 (rpm) and when you hate pullin' the power back, because as soon as you pull the power back, you start wondering if the thing is still running – because you’re always trying to run-up on that other guy. And the worst possible trip is on the way home, because you're running at half-full power settings, and you’re cruising along, and I swear you can almost count the blades going around. That’s how it feels...

...you’re just loping along."

This brings us to the other part of our story, "Macy’s Flying Service." Living in an agricultural community, you quickly become familiar with the sight and sound of the ever busy crop dusting airplanes but what is it like being a "crop duster?"

Even though they are a familiar sight, we were still curious as to what a day in the life of an Ag pilot would be like?

Macy quickly told us, "We’ll fly all day as long as the conditions let us go. We’ll go until 2 or 3 in the afternoon, if we can go that long. Most of the time, we’re going to 12, or 1, or 2 o’clock – that’s about it here – because, we’re like at Reno. When it gets warm, the vortices pick up and the winds start picking up, and we have to worry about drift off. So we get here– the guys and planes get here around 4:30 in the morning – and they pre-flight and get everything ready. Then we move into the office and work on (deciding) which fields we’re going to, and brief everybody on what we're going to do that day. And then they’re sitting in the airplane and we’re working from that point on until we shut off. They are showing on their air hours that they are in the airplane for 6 or 7 hours."

We wondered if the skills developed in Ag flying transfer over, besides just flying close to the ground and the control aspects?

Macy responded, "Yeah, I think that that’s been a big help to me. I’m running the same engine and I think it’s worked both ways. Air racing has helped me with Ag flying because we have 2250 rpm [limit] and don’t go over that. When we get to the Air Races, we do almost exactly opposite; we go past the old redline. We usually run from 2000 to 2100 (manifold pressure at 28-30 inches) in Ag airplanes and redline at 2250. When we are running at Reno we run at 2500 to 2600rpms and we’re trying to boost up as much manifold pressure as we possibly can. You can see the pounding it can take down there so you know – ‘geesh’ – after I’ve raced for 13 years, and when I come back to Ag, I know the airplane/engine is very reliable and you could run it that hard – and if I ever needed a little more rpm – that we could get it out of it, for extra, so it works both ways."

The hot topic in Ag flying lately is with the Turbo props, so we had to ask if Macy’s Flying Service had converted to turbo props as well? Nick answered, "We have one turbo prop (a Thrush, powered by an Allied Signal Garrett w/980 shaft HP). And we’d like to get another one in the near future. But we still have 3 airplanes here that aren’t." He added that, "it’s more consistent, when we get into heavier loads, we have a 500 gal airplane and the other one is a 400, and it’s got almost 500 horsepower more…it’s more consistent to go out in the field and maintain airspeed…because you're really heavy in the morning, and later in the morning it starts to get really hot and your starting out slower…but the turbines stay real consistent all the way through. And when you ferry, you can bump it right on up and push it hard."

Nick’s obvious enthusiasm for the Turbo engine prompted our next question: Would you enjoy seeing a turbo-prop class at Reno? Macy quickly and firmly answered, "No, it’s like the Unlimited Boat races – when they went to turbines – and you hear this whispering thing flying on the water, and you’re just watching speed."

Macy took over the family business in 1985, but as he says, "My mother is still the boss."

When we asked if he still does a lot of Ag flying, he told us, "My Ag flying days – since this last year – are starting to wind down because I’m running the operations now...and we hired on another pilot two years ago...so now I’m kind of phasing out of Ag flying, and hanging on to the Air Racing as best I can."

So Nick Macy – in your future – you don’t see yourself quitting air racing anytime soon?

Macy responded, "Well, I’d hope not. I'd like to keep going on…I take it for what it is. I enjoy it. I’m lucky to be able to do it and have the chance to do it. I’d miss it a whole lot if something happened and I couldn’t do it."

We wondered if he would miss all the Ag flying, and Macy said, "Yeah, you know it’s funny – all the years I got to do a lot of Ag flying – you get into that routine and now that my hours are dwindling away, I’m really starting to miss it, you know. You take it for granted – how you hone yourself out. It’s like Reno. You get into that groove, and it’s sad thing at the end when you have to come home, because you just really start getting to your best."

That prompted us to ask about whether the lack of Ag flying will affect his racing? Macy assured us that it would just allow him more time in "Six-Cat."

So, watch out residents of Tule – you are about to get buzzed!

Special Thanks To:
Neal and Birgitta Nurmi for their help in preparing this article and Nick Macy for taking the time to share with us his experiences in Air Racing.

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