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    from Reno 1983

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    • Re: Random Shot Of The Day - Part 2

      Originally posted by wingman View Post
      So a user named Carbonprop, in New Mexico. Any connection with our friend Steve? Steve has many championships to his credit...

      Neal
      Hi Neal, Yes, it is me, Steve Hill, Crew Chief, Team Nemesis and former F1 prop builder...

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      • Re: Random Shot Of The Day - Part 2

        Hello back, Steve. Birgitta says to say Hi.

        How many Reno Championships do your propellers have at this point?

        Who's making props for the class since your retirement? When I left Racing I think everybody but the two or three slowest Bronze were running Twisted Composite props. How many are still running? How long do you think one of your props can remain raceworthy?

        Neal

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        • Re: Random Shot Of The Day - Part 2

          Originally posted by wingman View Post
          Hello back, Steve. Birgitta says to say Hi.

          How many Reno Championships do your propellers have at this point?

          Who's making props for the class since your retirement? When I left Racing I think everybody but the two or three slowest Bronze were running Twisted Composite props. How many are still running? How long do you think one of your props can remain raceworthy?

          Neal
          Hi Birgitta!

          My props were on the F1 Gold Winner every year from 1991 to 2017. I sold the prop-making business to Eric Dienst, an F1 pilot from the Chicago area operating as Rev'd Up Composites. I don't know how many are still running but I suspect quite a few. Carbon fiber construction has an extremely high resistance to fatigue so the props I made should last a long time. Thanks for asking.

          These days I try to fly my sailplane as much as possible and also produce sailplane parts, do weight and balances, install new instrument panels, etc. Had a fun adventure riding along with another F1 pilot, Justin Phillipson, when we took the NXT from Moriarty to its home at NASM in 2018.

          Sailplane glider weight and balance instrument panel Schleicher ASG 29 Wing Tip Wheels Gear Warning Steve Hill Twisted Composites, Moriarty


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          • Re: Random Shot Of The Day - Part 2

            I remember reading about that flight in the NXT when it happened. A pretty epic flight.

            Has anybody ever written up a coherent account of the IF1 propeller odyssey -- the catastrophic failures of the metal props, the struggles with wood in going really fast. and the development (pretty much by one man) of the carbon fibre variety at the end of the 1980s? That's one of the many really interesting things that have always been going on behind the scenes in Racing -- other examples might be fuels in T-6, props in Unlimited, kit vs one off in Sport, and on and on. The fans never see this stuff, but I find all this -- the engineering, the testing, the in-class politics -- really fascinating. There's a lot of Air Racing history that's never been written and may never be. You were around for some of the USARA-PRPA-IF1 battles that were tearing things apart in Jon's early racing days.

            It sure was tight in that NXT cockpit. Crappy photo plane, too. It's a good thing it went so fast...

            Neal
            Last edited by wingman; 10-12-2021, 11:23 AM.

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            • Re: Random Shot Of The Day - Part 2

              I guess we killed this thread...

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              • Re: Random Shot Of The Day - Part 2

                Does seem that way.

                Maybe a Mustang for today? I opened the window of the Press bus for this. It was much more comfortable than standing out in the sun and wind.

                Neal
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                • Re: Random Shot Of The Day - Part 2

                  Originally posted by wingman View Post
                  I remember reading about that flight in the NXT when it happened. A pretty epic flight.

                  Has anybody ever written up a coherent account of the IF1 propeller odyssey -- the catastrophic failures of the metal props, the struggles with wood in going really fast. and the development (pretty much by one man) of the carbon fibre variety at the end of the 1980s? That's one of the many really interesting things that have always been going on behind the scenes in Racing -- other examples might be fuels in T-6, props in Unlimited, kit vs one off in Sport, and on and on. The fans never see this stuff, but I find all this -- the engineering, the testing, the in-class politics -- really fascinating. There's a lot of Air Racing history that's never been written and may never be. You were around for some of the USARA-PRPA-IF1 battles that were tearing things apart in Jon's early racing days.

                  It sure was tight in that NXT cockpit. Crappy photo plane, too. It's a good thing it went so fast...

                  Neal
                  I'd love to learn more about the IF1 propeller odyssey, I really don't know much at all about it. Maybe we could start a separate thread?

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                  • Re: Random Shot Of The Day - Part 2

                    I'd certainly be interested in exploring this. Steve Hill is a very big piece of the story, but it would be good to also get a man named Bill Rogers involved. He has posted here in the past as "Billro". Bill was crew chief for John Parker's championship efforts in Formula 1 and was involved in the great political battles between Eastern "sport plane" racers and what he considered the "real racers" in the West, as well as the propeller issues ongoing through everything. All this, with breaking metal props and crash landings was happening at much the same time. It was a very interesting and confusing (to insiders and to outsiders alike) time. Many interesting, complicated threads to the story. I wonder if Steve Hill would be interested in such a discussion?

                    Neal

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                    • Re: Random Shot Of The Day - Part 2

                      Originally posted by wingman View Post
                      Does seem that way.

                      Maybe a Mustang for today? I opened the window of the Press bus for this. It was much more comfortable than standing out in the sun and wind.

                      Neal
                      Have you ever had to pinch yourself to believe all the things you've gotten to experience in aviation?

                      Due to my memory loss, I get to rediscover things I've gotten to do by sorting through my files.

                      1997, just a fan who had discovered the power of the Internet..

                      Probably should be in the what a ride thread but.. Neal posting that shot just made me think of how extremely fortunate some of us are to get to experience stuff like this!
                      Wayne Sagar
                      "Pusher of Electrons"

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                      • Re: Random Shot Of The Day - Part 2

                        Originally posted by wingman View Post
                        I'd certainly be interested in exploring this. Steve Hill is a very big piece of the story, but it would be good to also get a man named Bill Rogers involved. He has posted here in the past as "Billro". Bill was crew chief for John Parker's championship efforts in Formula 1 and was involved in the great political battles between Eastern "sport plane" racers and what he considered the "real racers" in the West, as well as the propeller issues ongoing through everything. All this, with breaking metal props and crash landings was happening at much the same time. It was a very interesting and confusing (to insiders and to outsiders alike) time. Many interesting, complicated threads to the story. I wonder if Steve Hill would be interested in such a discussion?

                        Neal
                        I would participate.

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                        • Re: Random Shot Of The Day - Part 2

                          Originally posted by wingman View Post
                          For all the three blade fans...

                          Not as sharp as I'd like, but I love that pylon 8 angle. It's an experience to stand there and have this thing come over your head at 490mph! It's an impossible place to take Gold Race photos, but pylon 8 is the best place on the field to really experience a Gold Race.

                          Three blade propeller fan!!! Present!
                          John Slack

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                          • Re: Random Shot Of The Day - Part 2

                            It did kinda draw the eye, I guess...
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                            • Re: Random Shot Of The Day - Part 2

                              I'm still curious why none of the Sea Fury guys tried running a 3 blade like Bears. I'f I'm not mistaken, there is one hanging in Sanders shop on the back wall. Yes it was a handful on a Bearcat, but a Sea Fury is a whole lot more airframe to absorb the harmonics ect. I can only wonder how fast September Fury would have been with it. (It would have looked awesome as well.)

                              Will

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                              • Re: Random Shot Of The Day - Part 2

                                Originally posted by RAD2LTR View Post
                                I'm still curious why none of the Sea Fury guys tried running a 3 blade like Bears. I'f I'm not mistaken, there is one hanging in Sanders shop on the back wall. Yes it was a handful on a Bearcat, but a Sea Fury is a whole lot more airframe to absorb the harmonics ect. I can only wonder how fast September Fury would have been with it. (It would have looked awesome as well.)

                                Will
                                That three bladed prop that used to be on the Bearcat is the only one ever built. There are no spares.

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