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  • Seeking info on an older Bipe.

    Hi I am an RC modelest and have a unique plane that I am seeking information, history and photos if any on a certain full scale closed cabin Bipe called the "Beercat" it was a racer built I believe in the late 60's by Robert (Bob) Speed out of Vegas. The wings are staggered opposite then the average bipe, the forward wing is set to stall before the trailing wing.

    If anyone knows anything about this air craft please let me know.

    I also friquent RCuniverse.com as Blackie and have pictures of the .40 size of this air craft on a couple postings, The link is.



    Look under my name for pics.

    Thanks
    Blackie

  • #2
    Bob Speed's Beercat is the subject of a Dusty Carter 3 view drawing in Reed Kinerts Racing Planes and Air Races volume VI.I saw the airplane at Reno in 1970 but it did not compete, I remember there being some question to the visbility requirments.
    Chris...

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    • #3
      Thanks Chris, very helpful, If anyone else has more info please post it I would really appreciate it very much. I hope to get some pictures of this craft if possible.

      Thanks
      Blackie

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      • #4
        Biplanes

        According to John Tegler-

        Bob Speed finished 3rd in the 1969 Silver race in Beercat,
        and 2nd in the Silver in 1970.

        1971 was the first year I attended, so I cant say I saw #9.

        Bill Warwick's #97 "Hot Canary" was another negative stagger bipe that raced....was very competitive!

        All the best, Randy Goss
        Warlock #75, Steve Ballard, Al "Papa" Goss
        RIP 03/17/10

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        • #5
          I found this bit of info on a site.

          Speed
          Robert E Speed and Ronald Johnson, no location.

          F8F Beercat 196? = 1pCB; span: 16'0" length: 17'5" load: 304#. Took third place in Consolation biplane race at Reno 1969 (p: R E Speed).

          If I understand this correctly then this would make my little 50" a 1/4 scale.

          Randy Blackstock
          Blackie

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          • #6
            The RARA website finally has historical race results for all classes on their website at http://www.airrace.org. I found the following with a search for "The Beercat":

            Number of matches: 6 [limited to 200 records]

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            Pilot Name: Speed, Bob Aircraft: The Beercat Race 9 Type:
            Race: Qualifying, 1 Lap(s) Distance: 3 miles Place: 11
            Date: 1969-09-16 Time: 01:15.5 Speed: 143.05
            Notes:
            Penalties:

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            Pilot Name: Speed, Bob Aircraft: The Beercat Race 9 Type:
            Race: Heat 1, 6 Lap(s) Distance: 18 miles Place: 5
            Date: 1969-09-19 Time: 07:40. Speed: 140.87
            Notes:
            Penalties:

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            Pilot Name: Speed, Bob Aircraft: The Beercat Race 9 Type:
            Race: Consolation, 8 Lap(s) Distance: 24 miles Place: 3
            Date: 1969-09-20 Time: 09:56. Speed: 144.97
            Notes:
            Penalties:

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            Pilot Name: Speed, Bob Aircraft: The Beercat Race 9 Type:
            Race: Qualifying, 1 Lap(s) Distance: 3 miles Place: 10
            Date: 1971-09-21 Time: 01:08.6 Speed: 157.43
            Notes:
            Penalties:

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            Pilot Name: Speed, Bob Aircraft: The Beercat Race 9 Type:
            Race: Heat 2, 6 Lap(s) Distance: 18 miles Place: 5
            Date: 1971-09-24 Time: 06:41.9 Speed: 161.23
            Notes:
            Penalties:

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            Pilot Name: Speed, Bob Aircraft: The Beercat Race 9 Type:
            Race: Consolation, 8 Lap(s) Distance: 24 miles Place: 2
            Date: 1971-09-25 Time: 09:12.2 Speed: 156.47
            Notes:
            Penalties:
            Jeff Lo
            Biplane race #13 "Miss Gianna"
            Biplane race #6 "Miss Dianne"

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            • #7
              Jeff,

              Please be careful... Copying content from the RARA site may rise the eire of certain RARA officials. (I was accused of doing the same at one time, although innocent.)

              Just trying to watch out for fellow racer buddies! Take care and race safe!

              Scotty G
              Scotty G

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              • #8
                Re: Seeking info on an older Bipe.

                HI, MY NAME IS DUDE SPEED AND MY DAD, ROBERT (BOBBY) SPEED WAS THE ORIGINAL BUILDER OF THE F4F BEERCAT. MY DAD PASSED AWAY THIS PAST SUMMER AND I HAVE INHERITED THE BEERCAT. SINCE I AM NOT A PILOT, WE MAY BE INTERESTED IN SELLING IT ALONG WITH OTHER PLANES THAT HE HAD. THESE INCLUDE A PITTS SPECIAL, SKYBOLT, N3N AND HARVARD MARK IV. IF YOU OR ANY OF YOUR FRIENDS ARE INTERESTED OR JUST WANT SOME INFO YOU CAN E-MAIL ME. I WILL HAVE SOME NEW PICS IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. THANKS.
                DUDE SPEED

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                • #9
                  Re: Seeking info on an older Bipe.

                  Dude, What is your email address?
                  Warlock #75, Steve Ballard, Al "Papa" Goss
                  RIP 03/17/10

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                  • #10
                    Re: Biplanes

                    Originally posted by RandyGoss75
                    According to John Tegler-

                    Bob Speed finished 3rd in the 1969 Silver race in Beercat,
                    and 2nd in the Silver in 1970.

                    1971 was the first year I attended, so I cant say I saw #9.

                    Bill Warwick's #97 "Hot Canary" was another negative stagger bipe that raced....was very competitive!

                    All the best, Randy Goss

                    Geek.

                    Hey, MY first year was 1971 too. :-) We must be related!

                    Your Brother from Another Mother.....

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                    • #11
                      Re: Seeking info on an older Bipe.

                      HI RANDY GOSS, I WAS REALLY GLAD TO GET A RESPONSE. I HAD NO IDEA THE INFO ABOUT MY DAD'S BEERCAT WOULD BE ON THE INTERNET. I DID KNOW ABOUT THE SCALE R/C MODEL THAT WAS MADE AND SOLD. MY DAD WAS REALLY A GREAT GUY. YOU CAN E-MAIL ME AT MY WIFE'S ADDRESS AND I CAN SEND SOME RECENT PICS I TOOK ON A TRIP BACK HOME. BY THE WAY, HE LIVED IN VEGA, TEXAS AND NOT IN VEGAS AS SOME OF THE INFO IMPLIES. HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU. MY E-MAIL IS: bunhilda@sbcglobal.net
                      THANKS--
                      DUDE SPEED
                      MIDLAND, TEXAS

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