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  • #16
    Re: Two stroke engines in a racer ?

    Juke, Dont get upset by the nay sayers. Just go for it and leave them in the dust. Who knows this could lead to a whole new racing event all over the country. I would be interested in something like this on the east coast.
    Brad
    Windy Hill GA83

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    • #17
      Re: Two stroke engines in a racer ?

      I think it's a a cool idea. Don't need much room for the coarse. Would be easy for the fans to see the whole race.
      Cheers

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      • #18
        Re: Two stroke engines in a racer ?

        And they would be really easy to takeoff-fly-land in the wind (any wind)...NOT!

        Why do I have this vison of an angry pack of bumblebees circling the pylons?

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        • #19
          Re: Two stroke engines in a racer ?

          Good thing it's never windy at Reno.
          Cheers

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          • #20
            Re: Two stroke engines in a racer ?

            Nope, always sunny, warm, clear and calm weather in reno.....................

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            • #21
              Re: Two stroke engines in a racer ?

              Originally posted by Magdrop
              Juke, Dont get upset by the nay sayers. Just go for it and leave them in the dust. Who knows this could lead to a whole new racing event all over the country. I would be interested in something like this on the east coast.

              Thanks for the warm comments.

              And what colour would your prefer your racer to be ?

              Seriously;

              I don't think this kinda very economical twin would take away any interested folks from air racing anywhere...just on the contrary could bring more people around it and work like go-karts in F-1 car racing and bring more potential good pilots for the race as experienced pilots ( and AF and commercial airliners etc ! ). Not just spectators.

              If you order one it has no liability on neither side, but I'd be interested to know if there is potential to start making them ?

              Let's say a plane with retracts would cost " ready to fly " 60 000 USD and as a kit 32 000 USD ( with engines included )..mow many would be interested ( building time 300 hours ) ?

              Top speed at 180 mph...and excellent flying qualities ( we aim to this only ). Take off and landing from any 250 yard long grass field ( STOL caracteristics were another design aim ) and 200 yard long hard surfaced field.


              rgds,

              Juke
              Last edited by First time Juke; 01-18-2008, 05:59 AM.
              http://max3fan.blogspot.com/

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              • #22
                TOUCH THE SKY !

                Originally posted by ebutner
                Just make laps around the home pylon.
                Small ships have been around before !

                Here is a salute to the late great Evel the Knievel !

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                Here is his jump at Snake River; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsq3dWTrRWA

                I am actually surprised a plane ( a twin ) with 120-140 lbs empty weight does not excite anyone ? Especially when engines are 500 usd a piece and lumber at 1000 usd. From plans this kinda kite would be possibly less than 3 000 USD.

                Here is the intented engine; http://www.unitedhobbies.com/UNITEDH...idProduct=5734
                Last edited by First time Juke; 01-24-2008, 10:41 AM.
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                • #23
                  Re: TOUCH THE SKY !

                  Originally posted by Juke
                  I am actually surprised a plane ( a twin ) with 120-140 lbs empty weight does not excite anyone ? Especially when engines are 500 usd a piece and lumber at 1000 usd. From plans this kinda kite would be possibly less than 3 000 USD.

                  Here is the intented engine; http://www.unitedhobbies.com/UNITEDH...idProduct=5734
                  Something about flying around with a 7 Lb, 9.5 HP @ 7500 RPM "toy" engine on each side sort of quenches my excitement. "Kites" should be flown at the end of a string.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Two stroke engines in a racer ?

                    Sounds like a fun idea Juke,all of us can't afford a highly modified race plane. Most of todays NASCAR drivers started in go-carts. Not so long ago the Wright Bros.only went 120'.
                    Lockheed Bob

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                    • #25
                      Re: TOUCH THE SKY !

                      Originally posted by Skyracer
                      Something about flying around with a 7 Lb, 9.5 HP @ 7500 RPM "toy" engine on each side sort of quenches my excitement. "Kites" should be flown at the end of a string.
                      Yeah but is with just normal muffler and gas.

                      I get figure 208 mph for top speed @ 14 000 rpm using methanol and nitro and tuned pipes.

                      It would make it the fastest plane in under 661 lbs FAI gategory ( beating dominating AR-5 ).

                      Equipped with a recovery chute it would be safe to race too.
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                      • #26
                        Re: TOUCH THE SKY !

                        Originally posted by Juke
                        I get figure 208 mph for top speed @ 14 000 rpm using methanol and nitro and tuned pipes.
                        Show me the numbers that got you that figure!

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                        • #27
                          Re: TOUCH THE SKY !

                          Originally posted by Skyracer
                          Show me the numbers that got you that figure!
                          I also need 20/16 prop instead the factory recommendation 28/10.

                          Power to weight ratio would be at par with stock Mustang ( P-51D ).

                          It is an approximation..cannot have a presice calculation for it...we don't yet even have the plane.

                          This is the goal of the design...retracts in an aeroplane roughly 70% size of the Cri Cri...using same or equivalent rated engines ( 44 hp => 2x22 hp ).

                          I try to come up with better calculations soon..okay ?!
                          Last edited by First time Juke; 01-25-2008, 08:10 AM.
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                          • #28
                            Re: Two stroke engines in a racer ?

                            Juke,
                            If you have a motor that spins that fast, why have the added weight of a reduction gearbox, use one of those unducted/supersonic fan/prop. gizmos. They like to be spun fast. And it wouldnt be racing without alot of noise right?

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                            • #29
                              Re: Two stroke engines in a racer ?

                              I'll have some of what he's smokin' please!

                              Juke, I know its the middle of the long cold winter and your bored but give me a freakin' break. Your not going to build a plane with an empty weight of 150 lbs and a gross weight of over 300 thats going to carry anybody safely around anything at over 200 mph, with a model airplane engine of 10 hp, even on fuel and with a pipe!

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                              • #30
                                Re: Two stroke engines in a racer ?

                                Nothing says "Hold my beer and watch this!" like racing light weight 2-smoke powered "aircraft".

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