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  • Howard hughs B-25 ??

    Does any know what has be come of the B25 in lancaster CA the a&p school had the props off and I heard they mixed all the stuff up or didn't mark them darn learning curve the worst part was they broke some kind of pump when they pulled them,they had a KC99 out front also they were going to make a strato liner out of ok have fun thanks

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    Re: Howard hughs B-25 ??

    I crawled around in it after a bunch of freighters including myself were weathered out of the LA Basin one morning in 1986. A bunch of us descended upon Fox Field.

    It (B-25) was mostly complete and not vandalized, just open. I opened the front door and climbed in, some other guys went into the airstair in the back. It had really neat miniature venetian blinds in the windows, a bed in the cut-down crawl-through, and some cool old chairs. Typical old panel set-ups, and I remember that it wasn't too far from stock, just an older model than the J/N I had been flying. Maybe it is a D model?

    At the time the A-20 was next to it, and it was really weird as the rear of it was a little office with three chairs and a telephone, all in dark pigskin.

    Both airplanes had the wing outer panels removed and the spars suffered from severe intergranular corrosion. Still, two unmolested and intact executive transport bombers is a cool display. I'm glad I got to see them and rummage through them when I did.

    I don't know what happened to the B-25. I think the A-20 is in storage at Aero Traders desert facility.

    Chris...

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      Re: Howard hughs B-25 ??

      Don't ya wish we had cell phones that took pictures back then!
      Wayne Sagar
      "Pusher of Electrons"

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        Oh, yes.
        Chris...

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          Re: Howard hughs B-25 ??

          The B-25 is supposed to still be in Lancaster:
          The North American Aviation B-25 Mitchell registry follows the history of all B-25s that survived military service.

          I believe it can been seen on Google Earth
          The A-20 is now owned by Kermit Weeks and in storage with Aero Trader
          The Douglas A-20/DB-7 Havoc registry follows the history of all Havocs that survived military service.

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            Re: Howard hughs B-25 ??

            Thanks guys, neat stuff.
            Chris...

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              Re: Howard hughs B-25 ??

              .....WJF.....16 Oct 1985....










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                Re: Howard hughs B-25 ??

                That is just how they looked when I saw them, back in '86. Thanks for the memory back-up.
                Chris...
                P.S. Funny how I now see the trim stripes as very TWA-like.

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                  These are from 10 Oct 06 and the Museum is planning on a Static Restoration. The outer panels are in an adjacent hanger and as soon as
                  they move a Fiesler Stork out of the way, they'll put the Mitchell in and start work.
                  Attached Files
                  Eddie's Airplane Patch-Birthplace of the "Sonic Boom".......and I'm reminded every friggin' day!

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                    Amazing shots. The shot of the B25 from the RR quarter with the blinds half-open is positively stirring. I love this stuff...
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                    -Matt
                    Red Bull has no earthly idea what "air racing" is.

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                      Re: Howard hughs B-25 ??

                      So, am I the only one who thinks its kind of cool to see a 'civilian' restoration like this?

                      Anyone know if there are restored On-Mark Invaders like this?

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                        Originally posted by speeddemon
                        So, am I the only one who thinks its kind of cool to see a 'civilian' restoration like this?
                        Definitely not!!!
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                        -Matt
                        Red Bull has no earthly idea what "air racing" is.

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                          I love this stuff. My Dad used to fly a D. U. "Dee" Howard 'Super Ventura' and a Howard '500'. I really love these old exec's.

                          The CAF's (destroyed)A-20, one or more of their A-26's, (destroyed)B-26 and B-24 were all executive transports.

                          Howard Keck at Van Nuys, CA has an On-Mark Invader in original configuration. It is polished aluminum and gray.
                          It is featured in the Runway 16 Right trailer.

                          There is a pressurized On-Mark Marksman landlocked at a high school in South Phoenix, it was Garrett's powerplant test aircraft.

                          There used to be a Marksman at Santa Theresa?, NM. I saw it fly at a Planes of Fame show at Chino in '79 or '80.

                          Chris...
                          Last edited by stuntflyr; 10-11-2006, 09:44 AM.

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                            Re: Howard hughs B-25 ??

                            Originally posted by speeddemon
                            So, am I the only one who thinks its kind of cool to see a 'civilian' restoration like this?

                            Anyone know if there are restored On-Mark Invaders like this?
                            No, you're alone there. I'd like to see a couple more "warbirds" painted in civilian colors too. I don't think there is any On-Mark 26 flying in civilian colors today. As Chris says Howard Keck has a silver exec. flying out of Van Nuys. Matt Jackson has Marksman N99426 stored, and I hope that one could be restored as an exec. 26. The last civilian painted I know of was George Rivera's N500MR before it was painted as "Gator Invader". Also Conrad Yelvington had N7079G painted in a civilian scheme, but had added star/bars to it.

                            By the way Chris, would you have a photo of the Marksman at Chino that year?

                            T J

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                              Re: Howard hughs B-25 ??

                              Originally posted by T J Johansen
                              No, you're alone there. I'd like to see a couple more "warbirds" painted in civilian colors too. I don't think there is any On-Mark 26 flying in civilian colors today. As Chris says Howard Keck has a silver exec. flying out of Van Nuys. Matt Jackson has Marksman N99426 stored, and I hope that one could be restored as an exec. 26. The last civilian painted I know of was George Rivera's N500MR before it was painted as "Gator Invader". Also Conrad Yelvington had N7079G painted in a civilian scheme, but had added star/bars to it.

                              By the way Chris, would you have a photo of the Marksman at Chino that year?

                              T J

                              And of course, N500MR is a former racer...Lloyd Hamilton at the '71 Mojave 1000.

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