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    I've got an old 35mm Pentax SLR, that I need to dust off and start using again.
    One of my favorite subjects are the people of aviation, the problem being I'm not a fast shot, I'm usually spotted, and end up with nothing but people, flipping me off.

    Years ago made what for all intent & purpose LOOKED like a normal, short tellaphoto lense, when in actuallity the end was an angled mirror, shooting at 90 degrees to point of lense.Of coarse you had to careful of what it looked like you were shooting, but you could get some great candid shots.

    Does any one know the manufacturor, and if it's still available.?

    -------------------------------------------------thanks, Paul

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    Paul,

    another way to get them is to hang around the guys you're shooting and, with a digital, (which you don't have) you just take so many pictures that they eventually ignore you, or, in the case of a film camera, maybe try it without film for a while, then "reload" and go at it for real.

    Yet another way is to get a really long lens and stay far enough away so that they don't notice you and shoot when nobody is in the way.

    I like the first method because you can get some nice fill flash shots, but it does take a lot of time, sometimes, days. I got to where I was invisible back when I hung with the MAII guys, and now with the Rare Bear guys.. most of the time, I can get them to ignore me and go about doing what they do. I frequently do mention, however, that if they are bothered by the flash, to throw a wrench at me or something... so far, no bruses or dents in the hardware..

    Wayne

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    THREAD DRIFTING, AGAIN-

    I used to hate when photographers would hang around, and even worst, TV crews. I'd find an excuse to be under the airplane, or go to bathroom...Then one day I got caught while glueing Daves landing gear back on, (bad year). This very nice European gentleman, asked to take a few pictures, and ask a few questions, if I didn't mind. It was going to take a while for the resin to set, so I said "sure". He's english was not perfect and had a few questions on the "formula" concept, the variations in design, can just anyone start racing?..............It was a pleasant conversation, that lasted about 20 minutes, we parted politely and I thought nothing more of it. The next day, he tracked me down just to thank me for my time, explained he had a broader appreciation of what goes on at races, and would probably attend more of the "little" races they have in Europe. I was surprised and pleased, then realized, DAMN I'm an ambassador, a few minutes, and I may have just broadened our fan base.
    I was very impressed by one of the gentleman with the Pond Racer
    team. They had just had a fire and quickly rolled the airplane into a hanger to access the damage, and slammed the door on the approaching masses. I heard part of the insuing discussion, explaining that those people had all paid decent money to be in the pitts, to see the action and understand what was going on, and to close a door in their faces, was just rude. The door was opened, roped off coarse, and someone stood at the door to answer questions, while the crew worked...... CLASS MOVE.
    Those people, (CUSTOMERS), intrusive as they may be at times are why we have races/fan bases/sponsers & prize money.
    One guy who I had pegged as a "lookie-loo", showed up with an airplane, a few years later. Ya never can tell.
    So for you fellow crew, SMILE FOR THE CAMERA.... .....Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAFO_WSagar
    Paul,

    Another way to get them is to hang around the guys you're shooting and, with a digital, (which you don't have) you just take so many pictures that they eventually ignore you, or, in the case of a film camera, maybe try it without film for a while, then "reload" and go at it for real.
    Yet another way is to get a really long lens and stay far enough away so that they don't notice you and shoot when nobody is in the way.
    Wayne
    I'm 6'1" and 275 lbs with full beard I always get noticed, any way
    my main problem is time, crew duties usually occupy most of my time, so hanging-out is not an option. a telephoto would be logical choice, but I'd rather not spend the bucks, till I see were the digital format is going. I've bought "button" lenses for detective work, but the resolution is pretty low grade. The 90deg lenses is my number one choice, (and it should fit the digital slr's), but just need to find one.
    ......................................surfing on .................................Paul

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    So if you shoot your subject at 90 deg. through a mirror... would that make the image in the picture be opticly correct?

    please forgive... I like being a smart ass some times.

    I have shot many a subject, but never through a mirror and never at a 90 deg angle. seems like an interesting way to make some cool optical illusion shots.

    get one of those bubble mirroes for an RV and a fish eye lens....lol

    I might have to play around with this interesting perspective of photography.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfee
    So if you shoot your subject at 90 deg. through a mirror... would that make the image in the picture be opticly correct?
    I'm thinking, if I shoot slides, I'd just reverse the image. Correct me if I'm missing something here.
    The only problem I see, is to NOT look like I'm shooting some guys wife. I'd rather not have a 90 deg. colonoscopy.
    I may have to break down and buy a good telephoto, anyway. The one I have now is a cheapee, and hazes the shot at any kind of distance.
    If I get something I can use on a digital rig, it won't be so bad, but I just
    hate when they keep changing technologies on me.
    Want to buy a good 8-track, Beta-max, CB radio, Walkman... ..Paul

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    Tyson-
    Thanks for the brand names, tried a few of the camera shops & just get the RCA dog, look.
    I've e-mailed KEH and am waiting for there response.
    *For the record, I'm not a pervert. I was in the buisness of selling police supplies, and ended up finding it originally, listed as covert/surviellance gear.
    GOTTA LOVE the combined knowledge available on this site.
    .......................................thanks, Paul

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    Last edited by Apteryx; 11-07-2004 at 09:41 PM. Reason: SOMETHING HICCUPED

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    You watch, Tyson will be sporting one of those puppies next time we see him.. that or, some sort of right angle box for his signature BIG lense...



    Fellow Prevert...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvrphoto
    lol...I started to write about the uses of the lens and figured, hmmm...I think he's gonna take this wrong!
    No insinuations intended. I'd be curious to know if you are able to find one of these.
    Pervert,
    Tyson
    Tyson-
    Thanks, again.
    Perhaps I overstated, at least I wouldn't be using THIS lense for anything perverted. (Having sold surveillance gear, I could come up MUCH better stuff, for that).
    I figure the optical quality is not going to be the greatest, so I was hoping to find a used one to play with, for a while.
    I shouldn't of thrown away all the photo's I had of crew, flipping me off. I could have come out with a book :"The bird-men of Reno"......
    .............Just plane perverted............ .................paul
    P.S. excuse the double post, something hiccup'd half way through..think Wayne stepped on me .

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