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    Default Still using film cameras?

    This is going to be a good section for Wingman and Cobra to take up the torch for their favorite brand of film and film cameras..

    You guys know where I stand on this.. DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHY all the way!!

    Convince me

    Wayne

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    Uhh.... I still use the historic technology known as film. Digital soon I hope, tough. I don't think I'll ever sell my EOS 3. Besides it's all digital once I scan the print, and stare at the computer for 15 minutes, (for each print!!!) removing all the damn dust!!!!

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    Tim,

    If you can pick up a scanner with ICE technology that will go a long way in minimizing the amount of time spent cleaning up dust. I upgraded from an Epson flatbed to a Minolta Dimage 5400 a few months back and spend almost zero time removing dust now. (not to mention a drastic improvement in the sharpness of the scans)

    The scans take a bit longer with ICE enabled (much less than touch-up time though!) and you do need some processing power if you want to multitask while scanning. On my 1Ghz/256MB system it would run just fine as long as it was the only app running. Open up Photoshop at the same time and the scan times would triple and the hard drive would go nuts swapping out memory. I'm now running on a 2.3Ghz system with 1GB of RAM and all is right with the world.

    Rick

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    Hoping Mark K. will chime in here on this subject. He's got a transparancy scanner that we've talked about that not only does the dust/grain removal, it scans in batches!

    Wayne

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    The 5400 can do batch scanning of up to 4 35mm slides and 6 negatives. I prefer to handle each image seperately and tweak the curves on an individual basis. I know, most people say to scan it at the scanners auto setting and make the adjustments in Photoshop. For the majority of the scans I use the 2700 DPI setting and save as a 16 bit TIF image. Can you say 'sucks up the hard drive space?'

    Rick

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    I thought about getting a better scanner, but that money will go towards a digital SLR, plus my also historic PIII 600Mhz barely runs PS6 right now.

    I think for just over $100 my Epson flatbed does a mighty fine job.

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    The good thing about film is that as the scanning technology improves you can go back at a later date and rescan it to improve the quality. Hard to do that with a digital image.

    I think for just over $100 my Epson flatbed does a mighty fine job.
    I'd say your getting a decent bang for your buck!

    Rick

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    I still shoot film from time to time, although most of my shooting of late has been digital. Nikon F100 and N70 for 35mm, plus I've got an FA, an FE2 and a couple F2SB's for when I'm feeling nostalgic, or when I need a workout. Just try lugging an F2SB with an MD-2 motor and a 300/2.8 for a while.

    The film camera I use mostly these days is a Hasselblad 553ELX. Although it is a bit unwieldy for race photos, I want to bring it out to Reno again for some of those early morning ramp photos. I've been playing with a Mamiya RZ67 lately as well. I must say, there's nothing like eBay when you've just got to play with one of those weird cameras you've always wanted...

    Of course nothing else I have has beat the sharpness of an 11x14 made from a 4x5 negative shot with my Toyo 45CF field camera. I've got a couple Speed Graphics and a couple old 8x10 view cameras as well, but just for fun, I've not shot anything serious with them.
    Jeff Lo
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    Default Re: Still using film cameras?

    Personally - I had to make the decision awhile back wether to invest in a digital setup or stick with the film. For me, the choice became obvious once I wieghted all of the variables. In order to make use of contributor's photos, most importantly the ones taken "back in the day" - a scanner is a must have here. A lot of the photos I've personally taken over the years were also either slide or negatives - so making them available in a digital format was also a concern. I'm also somewhat of a tactle person (I like to hold - FEEL the photo in my hand) as well as see it in front of my eye. There's just something about having a solid object that appeals to me. Also, with film - it's not like there is only one made.... you can experiment and use many different types of films that all yield unique qualities that can enhance a picture beyond what you can do by just framing the subject matter correctly. So for me - film is the way to go.

    I have a Nikon Super Coolscan 4000ED with the SF-200 slide feeder (50 slide capacity). It workes very well for what I do... and the digial ICE, grain management & other bells & whistles work wonders for keeping the post processing time at a minimum. However, it also has the limitation of not being able to use any of the digital enhancements on any Kodak films (something about the Kodak films & infared that don't mix) and as a result, many of the "back in the day" pics require more post-processing time. Still it does as good of a job as what many drum scanners could a few years ago, and it's hard to beat for the price.

    Besides, it's hard to agrue digital vs. film when the old pics look like this
    Mark K....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra
    Besides, it's hard to agrue digital vs. film when the old pics look like this
    Eeeyoew! No kidding Mark..

    Just like with digital cameras, you get what you pay for with a scanner, obviously!

    I have had huge trouble getting a decent scan out of my old HP Photosmart unit. I've seen comparison reviews between it and higher end units, like your Nikon Super CoolScan and the difference was absolutely amazing!

    The HP will give you a pretty decent scan if everything about the slide is spot on, (focus, exposure, etc, etc, etc) if there is the slightest bit of "soft" then it seems to exagerate it to the extreme.

    ... Man that's a nice pic of Precious Metal!!

    History question.. did the original become the current or is it an entirely different airplane??

    Wayne

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