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Thread: Monterey Motor Week Cancelled: RENO 2020?

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    Default Re: Monterey Motor Week Cancelled: RENO 2020?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lon Moer View Post
    I was really hoping Oshkosh would be able to find a way to hold the event. Super bummed. I only have 2 more chances this year for aviation shows. Come on Reno, stay strong and do it!

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    Default Re: Monterey Motor Week Cancelled: RENO 2020?

    Quote Originally Posted by marada mx3 View Post
    I was really hoping Oshkosh would be able to find a way to hold the event. Super bummed. I only have 2 more chances this year for aviation shows. Come on Reno, stay strong and do it!


    Absolutely, RIGHT ON!

    But, if RENO sadly does not happen, see my other post...

    It will take a dedicated effort by this sport and that means US.. ALL of us, racers, crews, fans.. ALL OF US to do what ever it takes to keep the Reno National Championship Air Races alive and well!

    This site needs piddly$hit amount of donations to keep going compared to what they will need.. (thanks for all your help!)
    Wayne Sagar
    "Pusher of Electrons"

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    That sounds great and all, but I don't know how anyone is going to do that. There has been a need for this kind of engagement for years and that was when the races weren't in jeopardy because of a virus. The only significant engagement I've had is when we did the hoodie fundraiser in 2018.

    All my other attempts (lego models, web cartoon/comic, Reno Races board game, 3D kits for modelers, design your own Unlimited contest) have all met with poor-to-zero reception. Looking to other things people have tried, there are some RC models or Reno Racers, but I don't get the impression those are selling very well. The documentary Chasing Reno Gold is filled with great stories and background information and yet the reviews are bad because "there's too much talking".

    So, what do people want?
    The only thing I can think left to try is a video game tournament or a paintscheme contest. Because in all seriousness if someone can figure this question out, they have likely also figured out how to get the races to finally turn a consistent profit.
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    Well NASCAR did @ home racing & going for the real thing May 17th less spectators. Last resort RARA could try at home racing but I doubt that real racing without spectators would go over plus it would have to be Pay for View.
    Lockheed Bob

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    NASCAR has more money than they can jump over...and so do the race teams and many of their drivers. To your point, don't think enough folks would tune in, whether or not it was PPV or free.

    It's hard to put your finger on one single thing that is keeping Reno from "taking off" (sorry, couldn't resist). But I can tell one major factor is insurance. It's a budget buster and without doing the math, if there truly is one thing keeping RARA in the red, it's that.

    Reno never has been a motorsport on the scale of auto-racing and likely never will. The market is too limited and the demographics too small and frankly...growing older.

    I've mentioned this before; 99% of those who may attend an auto race are either drivers themselves or soon will be. What percentage of the population are pilots? Less than 0.2%...virtually the inverse of the automobile driver number. Not saying if you’re not a pilot you’re not a Reno fan. But, the deep-rooted understanding of what it takes to push an automobile around a track is far greater (and easier to relate to) than understanding what it takes to push an airplane around the pylons.
    Not only that but motorsports in general are suffering. Did anyone watch NASCAR before Wuhan? There’s a reason you don’t see the panoramic images from the Goodyear Blimp. A TON of “fans” dressed up like empty seats! IndyCar…same thing except for the Indy500.

    I may be all wet on this but from my seat, Reno is VERY fortunate to have the fan-base that it has. And I don’t mean lucky…I mean fortunate. Die-hards that will show up regardless. God Bless everyone one of you! The issue now is what does Reno look like in 3 years…5 years…10 years. And what will be the demographics for the fan base in those years?

    It’s no secret that the UNL class is not what it once was and with all due respect to all the classes, the UNL class was the headliner and other than the occasional military jet team demo, it’s what put butts in the seats. So, what happens if the UNL class continues on this trend toward a demonstration and Reno cannot secure a jet team on an annual basis? How does Reno build up the UNL class? As Thomas (CubersWrist) opined in another thread, perhaps we build it from the bottom up by lower speed requirements so we can introduce other aircraft types and hope those new folks end up (my words) “Burning with the of the Newly Baptized!”

    I extend the greatest admiration to the current executive team at RARA. They have expended untold numbers of hours, blood, sweat, and tears in this event and have charted a course that in every respect, SAVED this event. Period. They deserve an amount of gratitude that cannot be measured, and we all owe each of them a huge “THANK YOU!”
    What happens next, regardless of the outcome, will NOT be due to the fact the RARA failed to pull out all the stops to keep this thing flying. I, for one, am proud to play a small part in the future and I know each and every one of us won’t fail in that regard.

    Keep ‘Em Flying!
    Owen Ashurst
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    I go to several car week events and Reno too. There’s no way the Historics/Reunion can happen , they keep thinking they are.
    I highly doubt Reno can. Standing and walking around in 80 degree plus temps w a mask or bandanna on would be very uncomfortable. I’m out .
    I hope all this ends soon , see you in 2021.

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    I am rarely comfortable out there, too focused on the moment to take care of my comfort! We always joke after the week is over how much weight I have lost and how dark my "Air Race Tan" is. Each year I say "never again". That lasts about a week then I am more than willing to do it again. That's just me though and a mask won't make it worse or better.

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    Default Re: Monterey Motor Week Cancelled: RENO 2020?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    I am rarely comfortable out there, too focused on the moment to take care of my comfort! We always joke after the week is over how much weight I have lost and how dark my "Air Race Tan" is. Each year I say "never again". That lasts about a week then I am more than willing to do it again. That's just me though and a mask won't make it worse or better.
    Ah yes...the Air Race Tan. Can't wait to see everyone walking around with 2020 version...the Wuhan Tan.

    Completely agree, Leo. Must admit there have been days when flying or driving back home I'm thinking to myself, man that was fun, but...

    And yet...by early October I'm counting down to PRS. Like most all of us, it's in the blood and there is only one cure.
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    Default Re: Monterey Motor Week Cancelled: RENO 2020?

    That's what we will look like!

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    That's not what I will look like.

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