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    Rare Bear's 3350s seemed to be special engines. I think the Bear has had the best luck with the 3350 in high hp builds. Everyone else has grenaded (Sept Fury, BMB/Critical Mass, Argonaut to name a few ) before finishing the weekend. Clearly Dave Cornell and Mel Gregor were the 3350 whisperers.Sadly that knowledge is gone and will have to be relearned/rediscovered by anyone else who wants to go after the 3k record, as well as challenging the Mustangs at Reno. Can it be done? Most likely. Will it be done, that is a much harder question to answer. I guess it will depend on how much Rod wants to break the 3K record, and or win at Reno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAD2LTR View Post
    Rare Bear's 3350s seemed to be special engines.<---snip--->.

    Will
    Indeed they were! I'm sure there were internal "secrets" of which I'm unaware but the one thing I am aware of is that the exhaust system was unlike any other.

    Some really smart engineers figured out how to swap around the plumbing of the manifold tubes to create an "extraction" effect, increasing the HP by a substantial amount.

    It was, however, problematic in that it tended to develop some nasty leaks/cracks over the years. Apparently, the Ezell's and whoever else, decided that it should be scrapped. *IF* the layout was not blueprinted so that it could be recreated, I doubt it ever will again since some of those really smart guys who designed it are no longer with us.

    Due to this process, if it happened as I've been told, I do not think, no matter how much work Rod and company do to the Bear to make it more reliable that they will ever recreate the same power that once was obtained from a RB 3350 and make it as fast as it once was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by knot4u View Post
    The Bearcat was fast regardless of the "missing" horsepower. We got it up to 491 mph without the benefit of a great engine, we did build one but it was flawed due to mismarked parts. That engine was pretty good, it didn't leak much, it ran great, but it just didn't make the power. I remember sitting in the hangar at Van Nuys and talking to Greg about how we were making big manifold pressure and rpm numbers and the torque numbers were flat. I asked him if there was any way we could measure the duration of the cam rings that we'd installed. Nope. We burned that engine down at Reno in front of everyone. When the engine was torn down the cam rings were found to be incorrectly marked, the duration held the valves closed longer than expected resulting in high manifold pressure and low torque. Even down on power that airplane was fast enough to put up a fight with the fast mustangs.
    What year?

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    Late to the party (as usual)

    Regarding the donations to PM and then having the plane NOT fly: just my opinion of course, but I'd rather donate to a plane project that didn't come to fruition than to some fat-****** government person sitting in the lounge drinking martinis on my dime.

    And regarding the restrictor plate suggestion; I'd support that. I'd rather see a flock of unlimited screaming around the course in the low-mid 400s than one or two a half-course ahead at high 400s and then have to sit out the rest of the weekend because of a trashed motor. Been going since '72 and the racing was much more exciting back in the 70s-90s. I mean they imposed a speed limit on the jets, so what's wrong with slowing the unlimiteds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by V1670 View Post
    Late to the party (as usual)

    Regarding the donations to PM and then having the plane NOT fly: just my opinion of course, but I'd rather donate to a plane project that didn't come to fruition than to some fat-****** government person sitting in the lounge drinking martinis on my dime.

    And regarding the restrictor plate suggestion; I'd support that. I'd rather see a flock of unlimited screaming around the course in the low-mid 400s than one or two a half-course ahead at high 400s and then have to sit out the rest of the weekend because of a trashed motor. Been going since '72 and the racing was much more exciting back in the 70s-90s. I mean they imposed a speed limit on the jets, so what's wrong with slowing the unlimiteds?
    +1 to the first paragraph.

    Regarding any sort of limit on Unlimiteds (lol...), I can say I agree with the jets being limited. The limit is 515 or 525 (I forget), either way, that speed is VERY fast for the course. As far as I know, the speed limit isn't being tapped too often by the fast jets now. I don't think any of the fast jets could be doing 530+ right now.

    That being said, the limit on Unlimiteds seems like a tease. Hearing Strega and Voodoo doing 500 all by themselves was much more enjoyable than the thought of watching them with 3-4 other planes all around 400. That sounds more like an airshow. Sure it's "closer racing", but I'll always say that the reason I like Reno isn't necessarily about the racing, it's about the sound, the drama, and the unpredictability.

    2019 for example, limit Miss A and Dread to 400, for what!? One of them wins and nobody knows how much power either one of them REALLY had to use. We saw Doc blow up Miss A. I was so sad to see it happen, but those tense moments make Reno way more exciting than a normal airshow. Watching LaVelle trail smoke like the pace plane on Thursday's heat last year had my heart skipping a beat! Stuff like that will always bring me to Reno. Gotta love everybody pushing as hard as possible

    Chino's demo race was basically what a speed limit race would be. Ehhhhhhhh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMX105 View Post
    What year?
    It must've been '96 or '97, maybe '98? We were down on power but the airplane was still fast. If I recall correctly there was a lot of talk on sunday morning in the truck about what mixture setting should be used, Pete Law walked up to the back of the trailer and Freddy told him to run away, Pete was the person that should've been leading that conversation but the horse had been let out of the stable and it was obvious. He took Fred's advice and went to help someone that might listen. There is video out there somewhere of an oil covered bearcat with John jumping out and the nitrous still producing large clouds of fog from the inlets and the emergency crew approaching with an understandable amount of caution. Oh well, that's big time air racing.

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    Full Noise is coming back to the US this year for both Oshkosh and Reno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Race5 View Post
    Full Noise is coming back to the US this year for both Oshkosh and Reno.
    Oh yeah! that is really cool, her last appearance for the season here in NZ is Warbirds over Wanaka with Steadfast
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    So, the Wildfire website went dark. Does that mean Matt is bringing her up to Reno in June?
    Eddie's Airplane Patch-Birthplace of the "Sonic Boom".......and I'm reminded every friggin' day!

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    I can't tell if you're being funny/sarcastic.

    But no, I'm pretty sure that just means someone got tired of paying for an unused domain.
    "young" Thomas

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