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    While browsing through old copies of EXPERIMENTAL AIRCRAFT TECHNOLOGY magazine, I found an article on David Roses' Renegade. Why wouldn't this be a prime candidate for the Sport class racers at Reno?

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    Engine is 550cu-in so it should be legal in sport as best I can tell.
    "young" Thomas

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    Beautiful airplane, what's the current status of this project?

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    Photos anyone of "Renegade"?
    Lockheed Bob

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    Direct drive? Did i read that correctly?

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    David Rose passed away early last year, so none of these projects will ever see the light of day again.

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    Wasn't there a project called "Mach Buster"? I think it was at the races for display in the pits one year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reever View Post
    Wasn't there a project called "Mach Buster"? I think it was at the races for display in the pits one year.
    Yes. Designed and built by Montage, but David Rose later purchased it. Just another in a long line of what ifs that had zero chance of success.

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    One thing to remember about all these pie in the sky 1000HP automotive boat anchor designs is that none of them have ever proven to make those power levels even for a few minutes. Not in cars, not in airplanes, not in boats. Short dyno runs, and drag racing, sure. The issue is heat rejection. I have spoken at length with someone involved in a Pike's Peak program that wants to take the record back from that electric VW prototype, and eventually the Nurburgring record. They have an LS based engine that can make 1500+ HP on the dyno. It can make that power for a few seconds. Turn it down to 1000HP and it can hold that for a little over a minute. Turn it down to 500HP and it can run all day. Doesn't matter how big the radiator is, or how much water they can move. At 1000HP the block and heads cannot reject enough heat to sustain huge power levels without getting hot. Even custom billet blocks retaining the LS architecture have failed them. Rose had a DRCE engine. DRCE stand for Drag Race Competition Engine. It was the NHAR GM Pro Stock engine for several years. You think a drag race specific engine is designed for long duration thermal efficiency?

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