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    Default OT: Comet NEOWISE the first visible to the naked eye comet since 1996

    Comet NEOWISE was discovered back in March of this year. It was not expected to make a spectacle of itself, but after two others failed to produce anything visible without a telescope, NEOWISE delivered the goods.

    To find it, find a place where you have a clear view of the eastern horizon, and look due east starting at 0410. It will be gone in the sunlight by about 0445.
    My first shot of the morning, with my 16-28 F2.8.

    With the 200-500mm at F5.6. A little bit long of an exposure, I should push the ISO up to about 2500-3000 and reduce the exposure to about 3 seconds.

    With the 24-70 F2.8

    With the 20+ year old Nikon 35-70 F2.8D (I really love this lens.)





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    Default Re: OT: Comet NEOWISE the first visible to the naked eye comet since 1996

    Wow. Nice work!
    You'll get your chance, smart guy!

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    Default Re: OT: Comet NEOWISE the first visible to the naked eye comet since 1996

    Quote Originally Posted by RAD2LTR View Post
    Comet NEOWISE was discovered back in March of this year. It was not expected to make a spectacle of itself, but after two others failed to produce anything visible without a telescope, NEOWISE delivered the goods.

    To find it, find a place where you have a clear view of the eastern horizon, and look due east starting at 0410. It will be gone in the sunlight by about 0445.
    My first shot of the morning, with my 16-28 F2.8.

    With the 200-500mm at F5.6. A little bit long of an exposure, I should push the ISO up to about 2500-3000 and reduce the exposure to about 3 seconds.

    With the 24-70 F2.8

    With the 20+ year old Nikon 35-70 F2.8D (I really love this lens.)





    Will
    Nicely done, Will. Just getting into night sky photography and it's a blast.

    Though it does require a lot of patience...and coffee!

    Thanks for sharing those!
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    Default Re: OT: Comet NEOWISE the first visible to the naked eye comet since 1996

    Here is another. Tokina 24-70 F2.8 ISO 1600 F8, 16 seconds 70mm Nikon D850



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    Default Re: OT: Comet NEOWISE the first visible to the naked eye comet since 1996

    Quote Originally Posted by RAD2LTR View Post
    Here is another. Tokina 24-70 F2.8 ISO 1600 F8, 16 seconds 70mm Nikon D850


    Will,
    Are you using the "500 Rule" from time to time as well? Remote firing shutter?
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    Default Re: OT: Comet NEOWISE the first visible to the naked eye comet since 1996

    Quote Originally Posted by Air Boss View Post
    Will,
    Are you using the "500 Rule" from time to time as well? Remote firing shutter?
    500 rule? What is that? Hahaha. I'm using a remote shutter in full manual mode and bulb setting. Its tricky to balance the ISO to the shutter speed. Higher ISO gives you a shorter exposure, but more noise, obviously lower ISO is a longer exposure, but then you start getting star streaks.

    I'm going to try again from a different location tomorrow morning, hopefully there won't be any fog.

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    Default Re: OT: Comet NEOWISE the first visible to the naked eye comet since 1996

    Nice shots Will.

    Definitely rewarding when you come home and download and view your shots.

    Lots of patience required there.

    Thanks for sharing your work here young man.


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    Default Re: OT: Comet NEOWISE the first visible to the naked eye comet since 1996

    Quote Originally Posted by RAD2LTR View Post
    500 rule? What is that? Hahaha. I'm using a remote shutter in full manual mode and bulb setting. Its tricky to balance the ISO to the shutter speed. Higher ISO gives you a shorter exposure, but more noise, obviously lower ISO is a longer exposure, but then you start getting star streaks.

    I'm going to try again from a different location tomorrow morning, hopefully there won't be any fog.

    Will
    Ha! Looks likes you’re there anyway and if you’re like me…you stumbled on it like a blind squirrel!

    How did it go last night?

    The 500 rule is designed to reduce star tracking in your images and basically states that you shoot night sky at 3200 or 6400 ISO (use in-camera noise reduction system to help reduce hot pixel noise). Now, if you're shooting with your 24-70mm Tokina, open to 24 f2.8. Take “500”(some use 400 which gets a bit closer for me) and divide it by your focal length (24) to get your shutter speed. 500/24 = 20.8 sec (400/24 = 16). This method isn't perfect and requires some tweaking (experiment with the speed, drop to 1600 ISO as you were shooting, etc.) I’ve found 20 can be a bit too long so I back off a bit to where you’re at, around 16 +/-. Again, looks like you’re already there, jsut wondering if that's how you got there. I’ve never tried to shoot a comet so this could be fun! Very nice work my friend!

    Just sharing the following that worked for me and others so maybe it will help others who are getting into night sky photography. I certainly no expert and trial and error are the best teachers:
    Manual mode
    Shoot in RAW
    White balance to daylight or auto
    Manual focus (zoom in on star, focus until it is the smallest dot possible, then tape the focal ring down), zoom back out to 24mm
    Shutter lock up w/wireless remote or 10 second delay
    Wide open f-stop

    Post-production software programs are everywhere. Some are free (check out GIMP software…I just started using it, pretty nice for the price!) and others less expensive (I use Affinity Photo...one time charge/free upgrades). That said, I prefer to spend more time behind the camera than in front of the monitor. Aint' in this for the money (kinda like air racing!).

    Thanks again for sharing your work and your methods, Will. I hope to head out a few times over the next week to see if I can capture it myself. Likely won’t be around for its next pass thru our galactic home system…in 8786!
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    Default Re: OT: Comet NEOWISE the first visible to the naked eye comet since 1996

    Quote Originally Posted by Air Boss View Post
    Ha! Looks likes you’re there anyway and if you’re like me…you stumbled on it like a blind squirrel!

    How did it go last night?

    The 500 rule is designed to reduce star tracking in your images and basically states that you shoot night sky at 3200 or 6400 ISO (use in-camera noise reduction system to help reduce hot pixel noise). Now, if you're shooting with your 24-70mm Tokina, open to 24 f2.8. Take “500”(some use 400 which gets a bit closer for me) and divide it by your focal length (24) to get your shutter speed. 500/24 = 20.8 sec (400/24 = 16). This method isn't perfect and requires some tweaking (experiment with the speed, drop to 1600 ISO as you were shooting, etc.) I’ve found 20 can be a bit too long so I back off a bit to where you’re at, around 16 +/-. Again, looks like you’re already there, jsut wondering if that's how you got there. I’ve never tried to shoot a comet so this could be fun! Very nice work my friend!

    Just sharing the following that worked for me and others so maybe it will help others who are getting into night sky photography. I certainly no expert and trial and error are the best teachers:
    Manual mode
    Shoot in RAW
    White balance to daylight or auto
    Manual focus (zoom in on star, focus until it is the smallest dot possible, then tape the focal ring down), zoom back out to 24mm
    Shutter lock up w/wireless remote or 10 second delay
    Wide open f-stop

    Post-production software programs are everywhere. Some are free (check out GIMP software…I just started using it, pretty nice for the price!) and others less expensive (I use Affinity Photo...one time charge/free upgrades). That said, I prefer to spend more time behind the camera than in front of the monitor. Aint' in this for the money (kinda like air racing!).

    Thanks again for sharing your work and your methods, Will. I hope to head out a few times over the next week to see if I can capture it myself. Likely won’t be around for its next pass thru our galactic home system…in 8786!
    I just kinda feel the shot out, always shoot in RAW, usually in auto white balance (unless the light is really odd.) Auto focus on a bright object in the distance (the moon works well) and I tend to stop down to a sharper area of the lens, F5.6-F8 (Not always) and use a remote shutter release. I do my post production stuff in Lightroom, DXO, with some help from NIK collection Color Effects.

    I think I want to try and get the comet over the Pt Reyes lighthouse (Might be a very hard shot, if not impossible as I don't know where the comet actually is in the sky at night, and if I can get it in a frame with the light house since the light house sits well below the edge of the cliff. The fog may also make it a no go.) I also want to head over toward Rio Vista into the Windmill farm and try to shoot it over some of the spinning windmills out there. )

    Here is a shot from this morning, taken from my work. Nikon D850, 35-70 F2.8D, ISO 3200, 8.2 seconds



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    Default Re: OT: Comet NEOWISE the first visible to the naked eye comet since 1996

    Quote Originally Posted by RAD2LTR View Post
    I just kinda feel the shot out, always shoot in RAW, usually in auto white balance (unless the light is really odd.) Auto focus on a bright object in the distance (the moon works well) and I tend to stop down to a sharper area of the lens, F5.6-F8 (Not always) and use a remote shutter release. I do my post production stuff in Lightroom, DXO, with some help from NIK collection Color Effects.

    I think I want to try and get the comet over the Pt Reyes lighthouse (Might be a very hard shot, if not impossible as I don't know where the comet actually is in the sky at night, and if I can get it in a frame with the light house since the light house sits well below the edge of the cliff. The fog may also make it a no go.) I also want to head over toward Rio Vista into the Windmill farm and try to shoot it over some of the spinning windmills out there. )

    Here is a shot from this morning, taken from my work. Nikon D850, 35-70 F2.8D, ISO 3200, 8.2 seconds



    Will
    Great shot, Will. I especially like the "over water" images of comets as there's strong science to suggest comets may have provided the initial source of H2O for this planet. At 8.2 seconds that's good. And I see you cranked to 3200.

    BTW, that's from your work? Are you guys hiring?!

    How do you like the 850? It's a beast of a camera from the specs. I'm twin Canon 5D Mk III's with all Sigma Art lenses from 18mm 1.8 to 500mm.

    Going to try to catch it at Oceanside Pier later this week (I'm in Carlsbad). As you point out with the lighthouse, the orientation may not be quite what I hope but I understand the comet will be shifting to the NW sky and be best visible shortly after sunset. The hope is to grab something like this sunset at the pier with NEOWISE hanging up there...we'll see. Won't get the refelction you got, however.

    Thanks for sharing your methods and images. Look forward to more and hope Pt Reyes & Rio Vista works out for ya'.

    Keep 'em coming, Will. Cheers.
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