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    Quote Originally Posted by Desertdawg View Post
    One of my favorites Miss America. Such a sexy plane going around the pylons.

    Heres one of Scott Slocom's shots from

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    Come on September and Miss America.

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    Why is there always some bystander that gets in the way when you're trying to photograph an airplane. I had the same problem last week at Chino trying to take a picture of this DC-3.
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    Thats a very nice problem to have.

    The pin-up style never gets old.


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    But is "Strega", "Voodoo", "Rare Bear", Sept.Fury", "Furias" & "Precious Metal" going to be there. John Slack is right.
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    I've heard nothing to suggest they will be there.

    Back on the topic of good news, I've not seen Miss A in person yet, so I'm looking forward to that. Also more important is the relationship between Miss A's owner and RARA seems to have been mended (which is something people have been yelling at RARA to do for years now).
    Also it would be refreshing to see a new plane (ie not Strega or Voodoo) win the unlimiteds for a change.

    Also assuming Czech Mate's owner refuses to race again, this would be the ideal year for people to pull together 400K. Pretty sure that would make CM the new "people's racer".

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRNDP51 View Post
    Always been one for cryptic messages, Wayne. Maybe if people cared enough to post on this site I wouldnít have to go on Facebook to stay up to date? Donít shoot the messenger, well aware some only use this site for their Reno info, guess I just wonít say anything anymore if thatís better for everyone?
    Not shooting at anyone LOL... just pissin' and moanin' about life.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by CubersWrist View Post
    I've heard nothing to suggest they will be there.

    Back on the topic of good news, I've not seen Miss A in person yet, so I'm looking forward to that. Also more important is the relationship between Miss A's owner and RARA seems to have been mended (which is something people have been yelling at RARA to do for years now).
    Also it would be refreshing to see a new plane (ie not Strega or Voodoo) win the unlimiteds for a change.

    Also assuming Czech Mate's owner refuses to race again, this would be the ideal year for people to pull together 400K. Pretty sure that would make CM the new "people's racer".
    RARA's COO has been making a serious effort to fix previous wrongs. I first met him at the NAG banquet back in March, and then again at Chino two weeks ago. The fact that Miss A will be back says a lot for that. Had someone suggested that Miss A would be back prior to the NAG banquet, I would have laughed. Still, when I was sitting next to Pete Law, and heard him say that he had done a new cooling system for Miss A, I was shocked. Later on, Tony (RARA COO) introduced himself and made the announcement that they would be back. I was totally shocked. When I ran into him again at Chino, he shocked me again with the news that Mike Brown would be back with Goldfinger.

    Part of the issue with Strega and Voodoo is that the owners want big $$$$ to show up. From the sound of it, it seemed like they each wanted the same amount as the whole Unlimited purse.

    As for getting Czech Mate back, it seems like there really isn't anyone too excited to fly it. Sherm Smoot said he was done racing it at the NAG dinner two years ago, and Jay didn't seem all that thrilled to try racing it again. At this point it might be less a case of the owner feeling snubbed by RARA, and more a case of there being no one to fly it. (Pure speculation there)

    The cool thing I see is the interest museums are showing in bringing their birds out to race. I spoke with Mike Pfleger at Chino about racing the Wildcat again and he was all for it, but wasn't sure if the museum would give him the go ahead. We almost had a Zero racing, but apparently it will only be a static display. I think the Griffon powered Spitfire is a go still. There is also a P63 Kingcobra slated to race this year.

    Are there any 500+ mph birds racing? Nope, not that I know of. Do we have the possibility of some awesome racing at 460ish? You bet! Personally I'd love to see Miss A win this year since it is perhaps the oldest racer still wearing essentially the same paint scheme as it did in the early '60s (Miss Merced would be the next oldest followed by Cloud Dancer I think.) It would be fantastic to see such an iconic racer take the gold more than 50 years after it made its first appearance at Reno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAD2LTR View Post
    RARA's COO has been making a serious effort to fix previous wrongs. I first met him at the NAG banquet back in March, and then again at Chino two weeks ago. The fact that Miss A will be back says a lot for that. Had someone suggested that Miss A would be back prior to the NAG banquet, I would have laughed. Still, when I was sitting next to Pete Law, and heard him say that he had done a new cooling system for Miss A, I was shocked. Later on, Tony (RARA COO) introduced himself and made the announcement that they would be back. I was totally shocked. When I ran into him again at Chino, he shocked me again with the news that Mike Brown would be back with Goldfinger.

    Part of the issue with Strega and Voodoo is that the owners want big $$$$ to show up. From the sound of it, it seemed like they each wanted the same amount as the whole Unlimited purse.

    As for getting Czech Mate back, it seems like there really isn't anyone too excited to fly it. Sherm Smoot said he was done racing it at the NAG dinner two years ago, and Jay didn't seem all that thrilled to try racing it again. At this point it might be less a case of the owner feeling snubbed by RARA, and more a case of there being no one to fly it. (Pure speculation there)

    The cool thing I see is the interest museums are showing in bringing their birds out to race. I spoke with Mike Pfleger at Chino about racing the Wildcat again and he was all for it, but wasn't sure if the museum would give him the go ahead. We almost had a Zero racing, but apparently it will only be a static display. I think the Griffon powered Spitfire is a go still. There is also a P63 Kingcobra slated to race this year.

    Are there any 500+ mph birds racing? Nope, not that I know of. Do we have the possibility of some awesome racing at 460ish? You bet! Personally I'd love to see Miss A win this year since it is perhaps the oldest racer still wearing essentially the same paint scheme as it did in the early '60s (Miss Merced would be the next oldest followed by Cloud Dancer I think.) It would be fantastic to see such an iconic racer take the gold more than 50 years after it made its first appearance at Reno.

    Will
    Thanks Will, I imagine I took the initial info from you and put it here! Forgot you had an AAFO account!

    The new team is doing a great job so far in fixing previous wrongdoings, biggest thing besides making RARA 'respectable' is the purse needs to go up. Let's see how the new team does in that regard, haven't heard anything big yet, but have hear rumors of things that'll hopefully come to fruition within a year or 2. As for this year, I'm more than happy to have some super stockers racing at 450+. Better than Dreadnought running around in the lead at 430...

    All the Unlimited fans gotta look at Sport class too, they're pretty fast, have an awesome sound, and can be pretty unreliable like the Unlimiteds since they're always on edge. Puts an air of excitement into it when you know someones pushing their limits.

    Gonna be an awesome year. Fill up the Unlimited class with some stockers like the old days, have a solid base of super stockers that ran speeds like Risky Business, Miss America, the 3350 Furies... And hopefully bring the big boys back when Reno gets ramped up again
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    Just my opinion here, but as much as I like Voodoo and Strega, it is getting a bit boring, especially if one doesn't race. In that case, as long as the plane stays healthy, it will win. Doesn't even have to be at full race speed, just enough to stay out front...sort of like racing an Indy car against a standard sports car....you pretty much can have a sure bet on who is going to win.
    I like the idea of several "lesser" planes, if you will, (not saying this in a bad way!) that are more evenly matched across the field having a race. Makes it much more exciting when it is up for grabs who will win, and not quite a slam dunk.
    As for the owners of Voodoo and Strega wanting big money, that is their choice, but if they don't get what they want, what does one do with a full out race P-51? You can fly it around, but I would bet it would not be that comfortable; you can try and keep beating the speed record, but even then, there will be a time when it will be impossible to improve on; or give exhibition demonstrations at air shows. In that case, I think that the distance would be the limiting factor due to range, and maintainence issues that might arise on the flight.
    I would like to see a race with the "super racers" such as Voodoo, Strega, Precious Metal, Rare Bear, and any others with the ability of that much speed. It would, IMO, make it a bit more interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rigby View Post
    Just my opinion here, but as much as I like Voodoo and Strega, it is getting a bit boring, especially if one doesn't race. In that case, as long as the plane stays healthy, it will win. Doesn't even have to be at full race speed, just enough to stay out front...sort of like racing an Indy car against a standard sports car....you pretty much can have a sure bet on who is going to win.
    I like the idea of several "lesser" planes, if you will, (not saying this in a bad way!) that are more evenly matched across the field having a race. Makes it much more exciting when it is up for grabs who will win, and not quite a slam dunk.
    As for the owners of Voodoo and Strega wanting big money, that is their choice, but if they don't get what they want, what does one do with a full out race P-51? You can fly it around, but I would bet it would not be that comfortable; you can try and keep beating the speed record, but even then, there will be a time when it will be impossible to improve on; or give exhibition demonstrations at air shows. In that case, I think that the distance would be the limiting factor due to range, and maintainence issues that might arise on the flight.
    I would like to see a race with the "super racers" such as Voodoo, Strega, Precious Metal, Rare Bear, and any others with the ability of that much speed. It would, IMO, make it a bit more interesting.
    I agree, would I like to see Voodoo and Strega go at it again this year? Well yes, but it probably won't ever top last years race so what's the point? The next time I want to see the supers go at it is when it's Voodoo, Strega, and at least one more be that Bear, Furias, PM, etc... I think in the meantime it's in RARA's best interest to find the sponsor(s) to increase prize money and increase Unlimited attendance in ways besides the top dogs, which they've been doing a hell of a job...

    For now I think the best gold race will be super stockers very evenly matched... Maybe get Mike on the road to trimming Goldfinger up some more or buying 232? Not saying it's likely, just saying it isn't impossible to gain interest again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rigby View Post
    Just my opinion here, but as much as I like Voodoo and Strega, it is getting a bit boring, especially if one doesn't race. In that case, as long as the plane stays healthy, it will win. Doesn't even have to be at full race speed, just enough to stay out front...sort of like racing an Indy car against a standard sports car....you pretty much can have a sure bet on who is going to win.
    I like the idea of several "lesser" planes, if you will, (not saying this in a bad way!) that are more evenly matched across the field having a race. Makes it much more exciting when it is up for grabs who will win, and not quite a slam dunk.
    As for the owners of Voodoo and Strega wanting big money, that is their choice, but if they don't get what they want, what does one do with a full out race P-51? .......
    I would like to see a race with the "super racers" such as Voodoo, Strega, Precious Metal, Rare Bear, and any others with the ability of that much speed. It would, IMO, make it a bit more interesting.
    This definitely works. For example the Sport class is competitive from gold all the way to medallion. The more racers you have, the tighter the competition. And in the end watching to RV-8's battle it out every single lap can be intensely fun. Similarly Biplane silver is usually the best race in that category even if Phantom is in the gold lapping the whole field.

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