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  • #16
    Re: Jay Leno Sponsorship

    About 10 years ago Red Bull approached RARA and offered to sponsor iirc all they asked is the name be changed the Red Bull Championship Air Races and they be allowed to run their Red Bull Air Race as part of it. RARA told them to pound sand.

    With the liability brought to the forefront by Galloping Ghost I doubt we will ever see a sponsor of that magnitude again

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    • #17
      Re: Jay Leno Sponsorship

      Originally posted by supercub View Post
      John Travolta, Harrison Ford, Clint Eastwood, Kurt Russell, Morgan Freeman, Tom Cruise, Dr Phil, Dennis Quaid, Jimmy Buffet, Phil, Mickelson, Hillary Swank
      I think it's great that Stihl is sponsoring the Air Races, however I've never figured out why other large companies haven't jumped on board such as Coke Cola, Pepsi, Budweiser, etc etc. Just look at Nascar and the unending sponsors it has.
      For what it's worth, I also think that RARA needs to get the major jet teams back, Blue Angeles, Thunderbirds, and the Snowbirds, do it on a revolving schedule so a different team is there each year.
      Years ago, some of the Casino were sponsors of different races, like Harrahs Club..........what about the other casino?
      Just my 2 cents.
      USAF Thunderbirds will be doing a one day only show at Reno on Wednesday, 12Sep18. Both US military jet teams schedule out two years in advance and show producers submit requests for the teams as well as ACC and other military assets NLT 01Jul each year for the following year. This year at the ICAS convention in Las Vegas (03-06Dec) the teams will release their 2019 schedules. While some shows (like the Seafair show I work in Seattle with the Blues every year) have the Blues or Birds every year, there are no guarantees for other shows year after year. It's up to the teams to determine which shows they add to their schedule. And obviously show at military installations (which tend to alternate every other year) may carry a bit more weight than those at civilian sites. Selection also tends to revolve around attendance, recruiting opportunities and many other factors.
      The bang for the buck is the issue with Reno. Folks like Coke, Pepsi, Bud, etc. don’t see the value as it’s a one-time only event that has no TV exposure. NASCAR has about 36 races each year…huge exposure and a fairly decent ROI.
      The Peppermill Casino is a platinum sponsor. El Dorao, Atlantis, Silver Legacy, Circus Circus do sponsor chalets so they do contribute…just not in a presenting role.
      Stihl’s around for another year…then who knows. It’s the unfortunate reality of racing only once a year in a sport that has somewhat limited appeal to the general public. Most everyone above the age of 16 who attends (or watches on TV) a NASCAR event, drives a car and has some appreciation for what it may take to handle a racing automobile…very, very few folks over the age of 16 have ever flown an aircraft and may find it more of an exhibition than a competition.
      Owen Ashurst
      Performer Air Boss - Reno Air Races
      http://airbossone.com/

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      • #18
        Re: Jay Leno Sponsorship

        Originally posted by supercub View Post
        John Travolta, Harrison Ford, Tom Cruise,
        All pilots with historic aircraft, and Cruise and Travolta were apparently spotted at the races one year so who knows!

        Originally posted by supercub View Post
        I've never figured out why other large companies haven't jumped on board such as (...) Budweiser
        I did wonder why the massive BUD LIGHT logos/titles vanished from the Super Corsair.

        Originally posted by supercub View Post
        Years ago, some of the Casino were sponsors of different races, like Harrahs Club..........what about the other casino?
        Precious Metal (Griffon mixmaster edition) had Eldorado sponsorship for a few years, that's why I'm considering them for my trip to Reno.
        Last edited by ZacYates; 10-09-2017, 02:42 PM.
        Zac in NZ

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        • #19
          Re: Jay Leno Sponsorship

          Originally posted by ChrisMX105 View Post
          About 10 years ago Red Bull approached RARA and offered to sponsor iirc all they asked is the name be changed the Red Bull Championship Air Races and they be allowed to run their Red Bull Air Race as part of it. RARA told them to pound sand.</snip>
          Well, given what I know about Red Bull's ethics regarding intellectual property, they would have changed something, then stole the entire air racing "thing" forever!

          I actually know the guy who presented inflatable pylon racing by certified air show waivered pilots to Red Bull... only took them a year to completely STEAL the concept... they told him to pound sand!

          Red Bull ain't Air Racin' !
          Wayne Sagar
          "Pusher of Electrons"

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          • #20
            Re: Jay Leno Sponsorship

            Here is a good documentary about Roll Royce Merlin engine; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fo7SmNuUU4

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            • #21
              Re: Jay Leno Sponsorship

              Originally posted by ChrisMX105 View Post
              About 10 years ago Red Bull approached RARA and offered to sponsor iirc all they asked is the name be changed the Red Bull Championship Air Races and they be allowed to run their Red Bull Air Race as part of it. RARA told them to pound sand.

              With the liability brought to the forefront by Galloping Ghost I doubt we will ever see a sponsor of that magnitude again
              Christoph,

              Who knows if Red Bull could not have run and managed the race a whole lot better than RARA has.I'm sure the purses would have been larger too,plus the pr and advertising end would probably be outrageously good. Red Bull runs a pretty good operation.Also,I dont think Red Bull "stoled" anything from anyone.The people who are crying that Red Bull stoled this or that from them,just got out done in the business world.

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              • #22
                Re: Jay Leno Sponsorship

                Originally posted by krts View Post
                Christoph,

                Who knows if Red Bull could not have run and managed the race a whole lot better than RARA has.I'm sure the purses would have been larger too,plus the pr and advertising end would probably be outrageously good. Red Bull runs a pretty good operation.Also,I dont think Red Bull "stoled" anything from anyone.The people who are crying that Red Bull stoled this or that from them,just got out done in the business world.
                I probably still have the NDA that I signed with the actual inventor of the inflatable pylon races that are Red Bull, right down to using 0 altitude waivered acro pilots as racers.. Red Bull was presented the idea and rejected it... they then changed one simple thing about the proposal from the inventor and "debuted" it as their own idea..


                They, in fact, STOLE the idea, completely legally by using their high powered legal team to cheat the from its inventor....

                Yea... they'd have managed RENO better than RARA....
                Wayne Sagar
                "Pusher of Electrons"

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