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    Quote Originally Posted by Dudewanarace View Post
    How about we start a new thread and I'll tell you everything I know. It is hard for me to sit down and think what to write when I don't know what others might be interested in. Questions lead to answers which I'll be happy to share if I know the answer.
    Awesome Tom, thank you, making a new thread right now...
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    Yes, Wayne. I'll chime in here as another 30-year race fan (and only missed a few in that time) to say...thank you so much for putting this site up and pouring so much into it over the years. I visit often, and appreciate nearly all who post here. I've done a poor job saying "thank you" over the years, but figured it wouldn't hurt to do so now.

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    I've been following this site since it came online...lurking here, and on Pylon1 almost daily for years trying to get the latest gossip. Although I am no less interested in racing and still come here regularly, it seems the heyday of racing has passed. No big money is being thrown in to new unlimiteds. We are down to 2 "superstangs" and a no-go Bear. I completely understand the financial commitment to racing for very little return. The expense of running a stock Mustang is ungodly even when there is a good return. I am grateful to the few owners that still take the challenge seriously and I/we still like to see what shows up to qualify. When you look at any warbird that has been converted to an unlimited class racer they lose the "everyday flyer" aspect. There seems to be no up and coming owners willing to make that choice. The best rumor I've heard was/is a potential record attempt on by Voodoo on Rare Bear's speed record.

    John Muszala II would love to build a Baron...even has a stash of parts...but needs cubic $ to get it going. In the mean time they are building up Polar Bear to be a beautiful A model that will someday turn the pylons. Is it a Strega or Voodoo level airplane?, no but at least it will be there. I'm going to quit typing before I depress myself too much

    I see Reno in a transitional period of either spring boarding in to an empty pool, or the Sport and Jet classes taking over for the unlimiteds. Marketing and Ticket sales will be the judge.


    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harley909 View Post
    Marketing and Ticket sales will be the judge.
    Amen!
    Wayne Sagar
    "Pusher of Electrons"

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    I think they have done a great job this year overall with the program. I know quite a few co-workers, friends and locals I meet are going this year, some for the first time and some for the first time in many years, due to the military presence. Tell em there's a harrier and an A-10 which are fairly rare acts, along with the possibility of some other cool stuff and the statics and they get interested. I think ultimately it is the airshow that brings in the casual observer. Lots of noise and flip-flops. Many of those just see the races as a bunch of left turns. A fair number I talk to think they just fly around as an expo, no idea that they really race.
    Whatever it takes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harley909 View Post
    I've been following this site since it came online...lurking here, and on Pylon1 almost daily for years trying to get the latest gossip. Although I am no less interested in racing and still come here regularly, it seems the heyday of racing has passed. No big money is being thrown in to new unlimiteds. We are down to 2 "superstangs" and a no-go Bear. I completely understand the financial commitment to racing for very little return. The expense of running a stock Mustang is ungodly even when there is a good return. I am grateful to the few owners that still take the challenge seriously and I/we still like to see what shows up to qualify. When you look at any warbird that has been converted to an unlimited class racer they lose the "everyday flyer" aspect. There seems to be no up and coming owners willing to make that choice. The best rumor I've heard was/is a potential record attempt on by Voodoo on Rare Bear's speed record.

    John Muszala II would love to build a Baron...even has a stash of parts...but needs cubic $ to get it going. In the mean time they are building up Polar Bear to be a beautiful A model that will someday turn the pylons. Is it a Strega or Voodoo level airplane?, no but at least it will be there. I'm going to quit typing before I depress myself too much

    I see Reno in a transitional period of either spring boarding in to an empty pool, or the Sport and Jet classes taking over for the unlimiteds. Marketing and Ticket sales will be the judge.


    Jim
    Welcome to the forum Jim!! I have to ask some questions when you're giving out important info like this... is Polar Bear the plane that John wants to bring this year? It doesn't look too close and it seemed like this year he was ready to go with something. And "Baron" I assume that means what everyone thinks it means... is that a legit comment?! Thanks for the info I love the rumors like these
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    Some network needs to use the newest and latest technology to bring air racing to the big screen.

    They need creative stuff like maybe strategic microphone placement to get the coolest engine sound and cameras onboard every plane and maybe remote cameras on the pylons themselves to bring it right into your living room.

    If they could mic the intakes of the engines or even use a piezo contact mic on engine mounts or supercharger housing and mix the sound properly between sources, the whine of the superchargers could be brought out quite a bit and you could hear the induction groan as throttle is added.

    Hell....with proper mic placement, you could make electric racers sound badass.

    Good video and good sound could bring viewership and sponsors.
    Last edited by IcePaq; 08-05-2017 at 08:24 PM.

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    It's legit. You can follow the progress of Polar Bear on Pacific Fighters Facebook page. They have made a lot of progress over the last few months and she is sitting on her gear and the engine mount has been delivered. It will be the closest to an A model that she has ever been...and will have a stunning scheme if all goes to plan. Those guys were part of the original "Chino Kid" clan and Sr. worked on and flew the Baron. They have ties to her, and...parts. Not a whole lot but enough to get going. It needs major funding...but believe me, the interest and the spark is there with the right people.

    Jim

    Quote Originally Posted by GRNDP51 View Post
    Welcome to the forum Jim!! I have to ask some questions when you're giving out important info like this... is Polar Bear the plane that John wants to bring this year? It doesn't look too close and it seemed like this year he was ready to go with something. And "Baron" I assume that means what everyone thinks it means... is that a legit comment?! Thanks for the info I love the rumors like these

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    Unlimited air racing is dwindling. it only makes sense that the infrastructure around it will dwindle as well.

    Sport and jet class (the only classes that are growing at a noticeable rate) dont have the connection to this website that the old school classes do, and have come up in the new world of social networking. Forums in general are in decline as a result of what facebook can being to the table.

    Wayne, if you ever get bummed out by M.D.'s psycho BS, just picture her puking her guts out on the ramp . Makes me smile every time I think about it, and she only got crazy on me once.

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    I still visit, and very much appreciate this site Wayne. I have my own site and fully appreciate what it takes to keep it running as well as drum up content. I've returned to lurking simply because I had some people talk down to me when asking questions. I suppose I should get over it. We actually met a few years ago and have talked every year since then. I just haven't ever told you who I was here. Thanks for the site!
    Anthony

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