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    Default Racing a museum plane?

    Just out of curiousity, would it ever be possible that a museum (such as Palm Springs air museum, etc.) could ever race a plane? I feel like this is somewhat of a self-explanatory question as anything is possible, but thinking in the future where there aren't that many Bearcats, Tigercats, that are privately-owned, if Palm Springs ever got their Bearcat flying could it race? This is obviously just thinking out of nowhere but I thought it would be cool for a museum sponsored plane to race. I know Warhawk air museum is an air museum that has brought race planes, but the museum itself is owned by the CP family so that makes some sense. I don't know, just a thought I had in my mind during this slow silly season
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    There is no prohibition against a museum owned plane racing and in fact a number of museums have raced at Reno over the last 50-years. POF, MOF, CAF, etc. I think the reason we don't see these types of planes now is all about the problems with the purse size, or lack thereof + RARA politics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRNDP51 View Post
    Just out of curiousity, would it ever be possible that a museum (such as Palm Springs air museum, etc.) could ever race a plane? I feel like this is somewhat of a self-explanatory question as anything is possible, but thinking in the future where there aren't that many Bearcats, Tigercats, that are privately-owned, if Palm Springs ever got their Bearcat flying could it race? This is obviously just thinking out of nowhere but I thought it would be cool for a museum sponsored plane to race. I know Warhawk air museum is an air museum that has brought race planes, but the museum itself is owned by the CP family so that makes some sense. I don't know, just a thought I had in my mind during this slow silly season
    I've tried to convince Chris Fahey to get Steve Hinton to bring Wee Willy II, 23 Skidoo, the P-40N, and the Corsair to just run around at the back of the Bronze to collect gas money.

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    Good question. Kinda recons back to the days of the Chino Super Corsair. Did The Planes Of Fame own the Corsair?

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    I like the idea Big Jim wouldn't that be sweet! Same with CAF, put the bearcat and spitfire out there. And onto badman that somewhat brings me to the question of why wouldn't anybody with a warbird have some interest in racing? Not everybody has to own a full race P-51 but can't there be a couple of owners of the 150+ mustangs that exist have some interest in doing something a little more entertaining than making passes at an airshow? I don't know what prize money is for a plane such as Air Biscuit, but if the owner comes out positive, or even a little negative but with a fun week of racing under his belt, wouldn't it be worth it? Planes such as Lady Alice that I see every airshow in southern California should be making up the stockers, but hey, I'm a spectator without a multi million dollar warbird. I just think there should be some more interest in owners? I guess we have been asking ourselves this question for the past couple years now
    * and now that I think about it, the need for a crew is probably one of the reasons that there aren't more stockers, but how difficult can it be to find a couple of guys to help you keep your plane in check for the week?
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    Quote Originally Posted by badman View Post
    There is no prohibition against a museum owned plane racing and in fact a number of museums have raced at Reno over the last 50-years. POF, MOF, CAF, etc. I think the reason we don't see these types of planes now is all about the problems with the purse size, or lack thereof + RARA politics?

    In about 2012, I believe it was, some of the "Big Dogs" of the Unlimited class had a meeting, where they wanted to limit the number of entries so that they could each get a bigger piece of the pie. Just about drove Helton over the edge.

    I saw Brent Hisey so mad he wanted to do brain surgery on a certain pilot without anesthesia (my words, not his), and I don't think Miss A has been back since?

    They also told JCP to stay home with his P-40's and whatever else he had.
    It was pretty much the death blow to racing, as most people I know would rather see 28 or so planes race than the same damn 2 or 3 each time.

    That is one reason why there is a low attendance for the Unlimiteds now. I loved seeing the Corsairs and the FW 190 and all the different variety of warbirds. Air Biscuit is still my favorite!
    Last edited by toldjaso; 08-17-2015 at 04:29 PM. Reason: sp.

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    Thought I would post it here instead of another thread, but RARA has made yet again another conflict and Czech Mate will not be there this year. Man this gets worse and worse
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRNDP51 View Post
    Thought I would post it here instead of another thread, but RARA has made yet again another conflict and Czech Mate will not be there this year. Man this gets worse and worse
    Look more at the people in the class. I think certain people within the Unlimited class drive away competitors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRNDP51 View Post
    Thought I would post it here instead of another thread, but RARA has made yet again another conflict and Czech Mate will not be there this year. Man this gets worse and worse
    Where was this information posted, RARA has not posted the unlimited list yet and Smoot as at PRS-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Jim View Post
    I've tried to convince Chris Fahey to get Steve Hinton to bring Wee Willy II, 23 Skidoo, the P-40N, and the Corsair to just run around at the back of the Bronze to collect gas money.
    Great idea Big Jim! Any warbird rounding the pylons is a bonus as far as I'm concerned?

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