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    where are all the turbine powered P 51 Mustangs from the 70s and 80s and why aren't there any racing at Reno

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    Re: turbine powered P 51??

    Originally posted by h34race View Post
    where are all the turbine powered P 51 Mustangs from the 70s and 80s and why aren't there any racing at Reno
    If you're asking why a turbine powered aircraft is not racing at reno then you have already answered your own question
    Reno from '99 to '22

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      Re: turbine powered P 51??

      Originally posted by h34race View Post
      where are all the turbine powered P 51 Mustangs from the 70s and 80s and why aren't there any racing at Reno
      Perhaps that little old man that you knew a couple years ago has one in his barn?

      There were only two turbine powered P-51 airframes built. Cavalier mounted a Rolls Royce Dart on N6167U. It was a concept demonstrator called the Turbo Mustang III. In 1971 it was dismantled. A joint-venture between Cavalier and Piper produced two Lycoming T-55 powered Turbo Mustang/Enforcers in 1972 (N201PE and N202PE). N6167U was reregistered as N201PE and was unsuccessfully used to demonstrate the aircraft to the government. No contract was gained from this. N201PE was put in storage (last I recall it was with Gordon Plaskett, but that was 30 years ago). N202PE was destroyed in a crash due to trim tab flutter.

      In the early '80's Piper produced an updated version of the Enforcer called the PA-48. Two PA-48's were built. While resembling a modified Mustang, neither were actual P-51's, being larger and slightly different shape in fuselage length and wing area, but they did utilize a minimal amount of off-the-shelf Mustang parts. After another unsuccessful attempt to sell to the government, the PA-48's were retired. One to the USAF Museum in Datyon, the other at the Edwards AFB Flight Test Museum.

      Murdo Cameron built the Grand P-51 out of composites several years ago and mounted a smaller T-53 turbine on it. But this is in no way, shape, or form an actual P-51 either.

      Five possible airframes. Only two of them actual P-51's. Only one remaining in long-term storage.

      Unlimited Class rules also state that aircraft must be piston powered.

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        Re: turbine powered P 51??

        Originally posted by Big_Jim View Post
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        Murdo Cameron built the Grand P-51 out of composites several years ago and mounted a smaller T-53 turbine on it. But this is in no way, shape, or form an actual P-51 either.

        Five possible airframes. Only two of them actual P-51's. Only one remaining in long-term storage.

        Unlimited Class rules also state that aircraft must be piston powered.
        Team 51
        remember the Oogahonk!

        old school enthusiast of Civiltary Warbirds and Air Racers

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          Re: turbine powered P 51??

          Originally posted by lon moer View Post
          Wish they would make the white/grey/orange piston powered race plane. That looks slick.
          **Near the bottom of "Team 51 Plane Pics"
          Reno from '99 to '22

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            Re: turbine powered P 51??

            well thank you all for the response I just remembered the Popular Mechanics write up on it back in the seventy's thank you all
            Originally posted by GRNDP51 View Post
            Wish they would make the white/grey/orange piston powered race plane. That looks slick.
            **Near the bottom of "Team 51 Plane Pics"

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              Re: turbine powered P 51??

              Originally posted by lon moer View Post
              The Grand 51 ended up at the Fargo Air Museum on static display: http://fargoairmuseum.org/aircraft/static-aircraft/

              Were two built?
              Random Air Blog

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                Re: turbine powered P 51??

                Here's the Edwards 'Enforcer'. They just painted it for static display. I was in the same hanger they were using, as a GI.



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                  Re: turbine powered P 51??

                  Originally posted by SpinB View Post
                  Here's the Edwards 'Enforcer'. They just painted it for static display. I was in the same hanger they were using, as a GI.



                  yep that is the plane i saw in the magazine thank you all for the info even for the hateful ones.and just so you know they cut that plane up and put it in a dumpster the engine ent to the fortsmith air musiem just so you know

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                  • #10
                    Re: turbine powered P 51??

                    Originally posted by Big_Jim View Post
                    There were only two turbine powered P-51 airframes built.
                    Awww, Speedy....you let me down.



                    You forgot about this one, A68-187/VH-UFO from down under....





                    So the real tally is three:
                    - N6167U/N201PE
                    - N202PE
                    - VH-UFO
                    Last edited by Randy Haskin; 10-31-2014, 10:19 AM.

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                      Re: turbine powered P 51??

                      Originally posted by h34race View Post
                      they cut that plane up and put it in a dumpster the engine ent to the fortsmith air musiem just so you know
                      Which airplane was cut up?

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                        Re: turbine powered P 51??

                        Originally posted by Randy Haskin View Post
                        Which airplane was cut up?
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                          Re: turbine powered P 51??

                          Originally posted by Randy Haskin View Post
                          Awww, Speedy....you let me down.
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