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    Haven't posted much over the weekend, though I checked in regularly and watched the live feeds a lot. Obviously team Voodoo executed their playbook to perfection... again... and all congratulations are in order. I get the feeling that even when challenged by Tiger we didn't see everything that she was capable of like we would have had that been the last lap of the Gold and not the silver.

    But I have to tip my hat to Tiger. He *carried* that Mustang on his back during the Saturday silver the same way Lyle used to carry the Bearcat when he had to. Strega obviously didn't have the time and testing and big-picture program to beat Voodoo this year, but by sheer force of will Tiger came within a gnat's lash of winning a heat race anyway. Amazing guy. I was one of the ones who was skeptical as to whether he should have tried... and crow never tasted so good.

    His subsequent DQ was unfortunate, but ultimately mattered a lot less than Thom's DQ as the Witch was mortally wounded by the time she crossed the line anyway. I understand that rules have to be enforced, but its clear the process isn't what it should be yet. If the pilots are going to be held to such a constrained donut of space around the course, then its time to put technology to work (cameras, laser range finders, precision differential GPS on each airframe, etc.) to detect deviations from the allowed course and eliminate the human error factor. The stakes are just too high for a judgement call- it turns the whole thing into figure skating. And that's all I gotta say about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 440_Magnum View Post
    I was one of the ones who was skeptical as to whether he should have tried... and crow never tasted so good.
    Totally agree...same here!

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    440 mag,

    I totally agree with Everything you wrote........I have always been a Round Engine fan...you guess who....

    Tiger's display on Saturday was Amazing feat of skill and sheer determination....if he is truly "Retired" he will be missed, by the sport and the fans.

    Thom and team PM Got robbed by a "Judgement" call.

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    I just talked to Tiger about an hour ago. I wouldn't count him out yet.
    You'll get your chance, smart guy!

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    As someone who quietly wondered about the wisdom of Tiger's push to climb back into The Witch I have to say I was wrong to do so, he flew an amazing series of races and the finish on Saturday was epic, if not also incredibly disappointing with the DQ combined with a Merlin meltdown.

    Tiger clearly won the race and made what has been for me the last few years a somewhat boring/predestined Unlimited Heat and Unlimited Gold series pretty damn exciting.

    With Tiger's DQ on Saturday and the even more puzzling DQ of Thom on Sunday I am concerned that we are again not listening to the guys who actually fly these machines around the course - I recall the concerns being expressed leading up to the races in '12 explicitly covering the actual issue Thom has been accused of - the old Unlimited Class was disolved as a result, or at least in part. It is troubling to me.

    'Gimp

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    Default Re: Tiger... just wow

    Quote Originally Posted by 440_Magnum View Post
    Haven't posted much over the weekend, though I checked in regularly and watched the live feeds a lot. Obviously team Voodoo executed their playbook to perfection... again... and all congratulations are in order. I get the feeling that even when challenged by Tiger we didn't see everything that she was capable of like we would have had that been the last lap of the Gold and not the silver.

    But I have to tip my hat to Tiger. He *carried* that Mustang on his back during the Saturday silver the same way Lyle used to carry the Bearcat when he had to. Strega obviously didn't have the time and testing and big-picture program to beat Voodoo this year, but by sheer force of will Tiger came within a gnat's lash of winning a heat race anyway. Amazing guy. I was one of the ones who was skeptical as to whether he should have tried... and crow never tasted so good.

    His subsequent DQ was unfortunate, but ultimately mattered a lot less than Thom's DQ as the Witch was mortally wounded by the time she crossed the line anyway. I understand that rules have to be enforced, but its clear the process isn't what it should be yet. If the pilots are going to be held to such a constrained donut of space around the course, then its time to put technology to work (cameras, laser range finders, precision differential GPS on each airframe, etc.) to detect deviations from the allowed course and eliminate the human error factor. The stakes are just too high for a judgement call- it turns the whole thing into figure skating. And that's all I gotta say about that.

    Echoing everyone else's comments, that could not have been stated any better.

    I will admit I questioned Tiger's decision to climb back in, and I am so glad he proved me wrong in a big way! It was truly inspiring to see him absolutely fly (no pun intended) around the course on the first lap during the Saturday race. And then that finish, I'm still in shock!

    As far as the DQ's are considered, something has got to change!
    I cannot express how much grief I feel for team PM, to have worked that hard only to be robbed in the end.
    What boggles my mind is that there can't be an appeal or anything. It's one thing to say you didn't make a cut, but when there is video evidence, come on!!!

    I talked to Thom this morning, and I cannot say enough about much of a class act he truly is. He could have said so many negative things about the DQ, but he simply didn't. The team as a whole deserves so much better than this.

    Wish there was something I could do about it!

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    I hope someone will bring her back and give Shanholtzer a chance to prove the failure point wasn't anything to do with his engine building.

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    Did not know until reading these posts about Precious Metal, his 3rd place was a good high point for the week, man. KC

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    Quote Originally Posted by 440_Magnum View Post
    ... If the pilots are going to be held to such a constrained donut of space around the course, then its time to put technology to work (cameras, laser range finders, precision differential GPS on each airframe, etc.) to detect deviations from the allowed course and eliminate the human error factor. The stakes are just too high for a judgement call- it turns the whole thing into figure skating. And that's all I gotta say about that.
    When they raced the 72 foot Americas Cup 50mph Boats in the San Francisco Bay last year, all the boats had GPS units on them and they were used to determine when and where a boat was coming close to the course lines. It worked for them. Not sure how it would work at 450mph.

    Stan Honey, a San Francisco Bay Sailor and the man who invented the superimposed first down line in football was the man in charge of all that was done with the Americas Boats GPS. He would know the answer to all these questions. Somebody contact him and ask him to answer the question: Can it be done on 450mph airplanes, how long would it take to set up and how much would it cost?

    "Here's a quiz: 1. Who is the father of consumer on-screen navigation, including the automotive navigation systems used around the world? 2. Who invented the technology that displays the first-down line on your TV in American Football, the "glowing" hockey pucks and baseballs, and the real-time "player cards" in international football (soccer)? 3. Who is the most sought after navigator in professional sailing? The answer to all three questions is: Stan Honey."

    "...has developed a system to track the America's Cup boats to within 2cm (or 0.787402-inch), 5 times per second. The program then quickly superimposes graphics, such as ahead-behind lines, on the live helicopter footage of the race to help viewers follow the action of the AC45s and AC72s as they soar around the racecourse."

    "And then my career has been in electrical engineering, working in vehicle navigation, and remote sensoring, and tracking and highlighting systems for sports. I worked at SRI international, which did a lot of government research for a number of years. Then I started a company called ETAK, who pioneered vehicle navigation, you know the moving map displays for cars - ETAK is now part of TomTom. Then I started a company called Sportvision that does the yellow first down line in football, and does the tracking of the NASCAR cars and IRL, and does the tracking of baseballs in televised baseball."

    video and story: http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/05/ame...eo-stan-honey/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sportvision
    http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article...976.php#page-1
    https://www.sportvision.com/news/sta...k-out-everyone
    http://www.boatus.com/magazine/2012/...me-Changer.asp
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    Isn't what they are doing already with the onboard telemetry?

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