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  • #16
    Re: 13 suggestions for improving the races

    Something I hope they resolve is to bring back the unlimited Bronze class. Me: I like 'em all, F1,Sport,Jet,T6, but a lot of folks come for the Unlimiteds. The more, the merrier. Big Unlimited field brings big crowds.

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    • #17
      Re: 13 suggestions for improving the races

      Originally posted by Arctic Cat View Post
      1. Big fat checker board winners circle in front of grand stands. The winner of every heat race comes to the winners circle. Winner is interviewed, gets chance to thank sponsors. Get a winner’s circle sponsor and say the sponsor’s name every time you refer to the winners circle.
      2. Pay for every heat race and hand out big cardboard check in the above winners circle.
      3. GPS transmitter on every plane with real time scoring so you can see in the stands how fast each plane is turning laps and if they are gaining or losing ground on other planes. Have easily visible timing screens, and you could even have an app for that. Get sponsor for timing clocks.
      4. Roving pit reporter that knows what is going on doing interviews with pilots and crew. The back story of what is going on is important to understand and build the drama. This can’t be some hired gun who doesn’t know anything, you need someone who knows whats going on and doesn’t sound like a dork.
      5. Increase sport class purse to big bucks for top 3 and see who shows up. This is the fast class of the future, make it worth someone’s while to dump some money into something special.
      6. Freshen up the show. The same old jet dragster has been doing the same race for the last 15 years. Get somebody new, like the jet school bus guy. He brings the big yellow school bus and the jet powered porta-potti. Get Sani Hut to Sponsor him.
      7. Bring back the car drop. It’s a cheap & easy filler for dead time. Make sure the pilot knows to not drop it on the runway.
      8. No more than 1 airshow act that fly’s an extra 300 or similar aircraft. Kyle Franklin in the LOUD Waco, Sean Tucker etc.
      9. Have the wall of fire guys light the place up, but have them leave an area burning, leads to the next act a demonstration water drop by a fire bomber. The big DC-10 would be real cool, but even a smaller single engine tanker would be fun.
      10. Have red bull bring a fmx guy and have him jump the red bull airplane.
      11. Have tent behind stands and have pilots scheduled to do autographs.
      12. Booth in the general admission area where you can buy team merchandise. Give teams a chance to sell to the other 80% of the people that come through the gate that don’t buy a pit pass
      13. Reduce the cost of pit pass or at least anyone under the age of is 18 free with an adult. Combine this with every pit to have a “question answerer” person on the rope to answer questions at all times so that new fans and youngsters can learn about the plane and become a fan.
      What do you guys think.

      I know Reno in Sept. is a 50 year tradition, but Sept. means pulling kids out of school to expose them and potentially get a new generation of fans. I did not make it to Reno until I was out of college and working, & I am a race fan from 1967 on.
      Most summer sports end Aug. 1, and I am not sure anymore when school starts (late Aug.) but it seemed that window is when many plan a vacation.
      As I recall Bill Stead picked Sept. due to Casino's were slow. Maybe after 50 years someone should look to see if this is still true and weigh pros & cons of moving Races to different dates.

      Cons: might conflict with a few air shows, might be harder to get Military display team, might conflict with other Reno events, might be time Casinos are so full they don't want it moved,

      Pro:schools out so might get more families or at least dad & sons, teachers are not working, weather might be warmer and less chance of rain/snow,

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      • #18
        Re: 13 suggestions for improving the races

        It's already hot enough in September, any earlier is no good.

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        • #19
          Re: 13 suggestions for improving the races

          Tom Cruise, John Travolta, or A & E.

          A & E is the best answer to the air race problem. A reality show for Air Racin' using Dago and its rebuild as the base for the show. Finance a program and CREATE an audience. If they can do it for a little hillbilly fat girl, a bunch of WT gold miners, crab catchers and some Cajun duck callers, they can do it for air racing. Just sayin

          Are we gonna sit back and watch the races die or are we gonna do something about it??? Who knows somebody at A & E??

          Wayne?

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          • #20
            Re: 13 suggestions for improving the races

            Originally posted by Dago Dog View Post
            Are we gonna sit back and watch the races die or are we gonna do something about it???

            Wayne?
            How about getting some into the future aspect to it ?

            1. Class for HPAs ( human powered airplanes )
            2. Class for HPAs with solar assisted option
            3. Class for solar powered aerodynes

            QinetiQ a firm in England is going to fly to 40 000 meters with an R/C plane.

            1981 Paul MacCready flew from London to Paris...Solar Impulse flies 24 hours straight 2013.

            I actually figured that an aeroplane with rocket assistance could fly to 100 km altitude...if first flew to 30 km with solar power.

            The Mustangs and F-1s etc Sports class could have new buddies as well !

            Any good ?



            rgds,

            Juke
            Last edited by First time Juke; 01-25-2014, 08:53 AM.
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            • #21
              Re: 13 suggestions for improving the races

              Originally posted by Dago Dog View Post
              Tom Cruise, John Travolta, or A & E.

              A & E is the best answer to the air race problem. A reality show for Air Racin' using Dago and its rebuild as the base for the show. Finance a program and CREATE an audience. If they can do it for a little hillbilly fat girl, a bunch of WT gold miners, crab catchers and some Cajun duck callers, they can do it for air racing. Just sayin

              Are we gonna sit back and watch the races die or are we gonna do something about it??? Who knows somebody at A & E??

              Wayne?
              The mythbusters crew does a special every year for shooting pumpkins. They could use essentially the same format for Reno. They've done shows with Dave Morss as well.

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              • #22
                Re: 13 suggestions for improving the races

                The A & E viewers I agree, any TV broadcast would be a boost. I believe the real time and viewing board is a great idea. What about inline, using the home pylon as the finish line, for a form of bracket racing, 5 mile straight line course.
                The fastest aircraft, from a standing start, to obtain 1000', 5000 and 10,000' based on similar aircraft.

                The pits opening up to spectators, is a great idea. In the interactive age, it would be nice to have a former racer or informed individual for each type of racing environment to detail what the crew and pilot have to do in order to survive and win over the week long race event. I believe there are enough informed personnel about each division of aircraft, that they could accommodate a spokesperson for each category, as not to compromise the mechanics and pilots, in the pit area.

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                • #23
                  Re: 13 suggestions for improving the races

                  Go Pro sponsors everything. Many of the racers are using their products. If they could get Go Pro to be a front line sponsor and partner with a TV channel to air the content, you'd be killing 2 birds with 1 stone. If there is an audience for Hillbilly Handfishing and Hillbilly Housewives, there has to be an audience for Air Racing.
                  "Lighten Up Francis....."

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                  • #24
                    Re: 13 suggestions for improving the races

                    A&E is not the right choice they have enough stupid aviation shows , they have a way of taking a cool situation and making it full on "not so reality duchebagery" , we need ESPN 8 the ocho , it needs to be more Nitro Circus than hillbilly moonshiners

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                    • #25
                      Re: 13 suggestions for improving the races

                      Originally posted by f1-69 View Post
                      A&E is not the right choice they have enough stupid aviation shows , they have a way of taking a cool situation and making it full on "not so reality duchebagery" , we need ESPN 8 the ocho , it needs to be more Nitro Circus than hillbilly moonshiners
                      I think the race should start with a 120 km altitude a 126 m spanning overflying mother ship lauching a space rocket into Mars above the grand stands...doing mach 20. Folks could have telescopes to view it.

                      Then the classical speech: "Gentlemen ! You have a race !"

                      Any good ?
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                      • #26
                        Re: 13 suggestions for improving the races

                        Originally posted by f1-69 View Post
                        A&E is not the right choice they have enough stupid aviation shows , they have a way of taking a cool situation and making it full on "not so reality duchebagery" , we need ESPN 8 the ocho , it needs to be more Nitro Circus than hillbilly moonshiners
                        I went to the Nitro Circus Live show the other night in San Jose with my family. Great show, a little loud and the announcer never shut up the whole time, so I guess the guy at Reno wasn't so bad. Best part of the show was when the pulled a skinny guy out fo the stands and had him cling to the back of a guy on a bmx bike as they cleared a 50' gap doing a back flip!

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                        • #27
                          Re: 13 suggestions for improving the races

                          How about ancient racer replica contest alongside with other..as a class of its own ? Renaults racers etc.
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                          • #28
                            Re: 13 suggestions for improving the races

                            Everyone has had killer ideas but creating a new class or adding some side show bob act won't help either, it's all about how we market ourselves and to who, here is the prob bob, we already have the coolest $hit in town , I mean think about it , Stevo doin almost 500mph in a p51 mustang followed by bearcats wildcats tigercats p38 p39 seafury and whatever PM is and that's just the normal planes ,pond racer tsunami well I think you get what I'm saying, and that's just the unlimiteds .
                            The jets which I don't know much about are very exciting for new people, the noise the speed are pretty cool.

                            The ones who I think are the heroes are the sport class everyday people racing everyday planes, but the passion you see in the sport hanger is unsurpassed , they are the youngest class with the most participants so maybe rara and the other classes need to take notice I hope my class does.

                            Then you have my little guys doing 260mph on 100 or 180hp F1 and biplanes, Not to mention the best aerobatic performers and jet teams and don't forget a rocket powered car


                            Soooooooooo.... In my book we have the coolest $hit already we just need tv and good marketing

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                            • #29
                              Re: 13 suggestions for improving the races

                              I hate to say it, but I think RARA really needs to sell the NCAR to redbull. Redbull loves aviation and they, in my opinion would make the event a kick ass time to be had by all. They do a kick ass job of the RBAR's and I think they would do the same for the NCAR. And maybe they would bring White Lightning back.

                              I see RARA doing the same $hit every year, and its not working. Redbull has the experience. To me they are the next logical keepers of the sport. RB also has a deep respect for the history of air racing.
                              Last edited by Bob; 01-29-2014, 09:04 AM.

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                              • #30
                                Re: 13 suggestions for improving the races

                                ACME Marketing Plan for Success

                                1. Hot Babes - Get their attention with eye candy. Once you have their attention, tell the rest of the story.

                                2. Blow $#!T UP! - Wall of Fire, simulated bomb runs, doesn't matter as long as its loud and ends in a fireball (and safe).

                                3. Give Stuff Away - Everyone likes to think they have a chance to win something big. Give away a couple of plane rides, pit passes, parking permits, etc... each day. Perhaps something bigger on Sunday.

                                4. Celebrity Endorsements - Get John Travolta, Harrison Ford, Carl Edwards, Tom Cruise, etc... to start talking about air racing.

                                5a. Celebrity Access - Shake hands, get your pic taken with the above. Two time slots per day. One in the pits and the other in the general area.

                                5b. Celebrity Access - Shake hands, get your pic taken with pilots and crew chiefs. Our pilots and crew need to start thinking of themselves as celebs and engage the "general public". Same type of schedule as 5a.

                                6. Get on TV - Velocity Channel show about air racing. Follow some teams (in each class) during the off season. Advertise the show on Duck Dynasty, Deadliest Catch, other top rated shows.

                                7. Have a Party! - Throw a party on-site Friday night with entertainment on the ground and in the air. Then, an awards party in Reno with public access. Have the celebs there.
                                Sky Critter

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