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johnnyrace
10-03-2011, 06:51 PM
Maybe this was already posted, if so I apologize, but I had not seen this angle before aside from when it happened...This person was very close to where we were and this is what we saw from the VOS...I think the violence of the pitch up is obvious in this vid...Can be viewed at 1080p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbkxKJCM4x8

sandramore
10-03-2011, 07:09 PM
Just makes my head hurt...:sad:

madman
10-03-2011, 07:20 PM
Just makes my head hurt...:sad:

Me too :confused:

RBriscoe
10-03-2011, 09:31 PM
You might want to take a look at the video linked in this thread.

http://aafo.com/hangartalk/showthread.php?t=9356

johnnyrace
10-04-2011, 01:06 AM
You might want to take a look at the video linked in this thread.

http://aafo.com/hangartalk/showthread.php?t=9356

Thanks, I had seen Jason's video...I just thought from this videos angle that, though distant, it showed the tightness of the path of flight in a more dramatic way because you can see it's position relative to the stands and pits...I saw it with my own eyes and kinda felt like maybe I had imagined it happened so quickly and in such a compact box of airspace until looking at this video.

Sorry if I am harping on it, but even from this distance it was very shocking and surreal and seeing this video confirmed to me what had been replaying in my head for so long...I also figured maybe the few people out there I have heard say the pitch up did not seem that severe to them may see this and realize just how violent it really was.

glider90
10-04-2011, 07:41 AM
There are 10 seconds of really great footage in this video from the 2:00 mark to 2:10 showing Jimmy passing the Bear. Best footage of the pass I have seen.

Also I am amazed at how empty most of the reserved seat grandstands are.

Coyote Chris
10-04-2011, 10:08 AM
Very interesting....this vid does show just how severe a 10 g pullup is. It also shows the accident was much closer to Section 3 than I thought.
I was also amazed and just how empty the expensive seats were...
Chris starting to sleep at night without drugs....

440_Magnum
10-04-2011, 12:30 PM
I also figured maybe the few people out there I have heard say the pitch up did not seem that severe to them may see this and realize just how violent it really was.

I think the most gut wrenching thing is to look at Jason's video and this one and compare the two. The vid at the top of this thread shows the *vertical* motion, but that MISSES the most severe pitch-up relative to the airplane itself. The most violent instant of pitch appears to happen while banked almost 90 degrees left, so the distant video never shows that- Jason's video does, and it looks to me like you can see the wings flex under the loading. The vertical pullup shown so well by this video is abrupt... but its got nothing on the initial snap which was directed horizontally (relative to the earth) due to the 90 degree bank. The tail-wheel was already out before the Ghost ever started gaining significant altitude as shown by Jason's video.

Frank C.
10-04-2011, 03:51 PM
There are 10 seconds of really great footage in this video from the 2:00 mark to 2:10 showing Jimmy passing the Bear. Best footage of the pass I have seen.

Also I am amazed at how empty most of the reserved seat grandstands are.

Was kind of strange how empty the reserved seats were. I bet Jimmy had a big smile on his face passing the Bear.

AiRick
10-04-2011, 06:53 PM
The Pass

Acorn
10-04-2011, 08:02 PM
Dang, just started shaking watching that. Still too close.

airtj
10-04-2011, 09:30 PM
The reserved seating to me has dwindled down the last couple of years. Been at the air races for 10+ years.

flyingjibus
10-04-2011, 11:09 PM
Very interesting....this vid does show just how severe a 10 g pullup is. It also shows the accident was much closer to Section 3 than I thought.
I was also amazed and just how empty the expensive seats were...
Chris starting to sleep at night without drugs....

It was pointed straight at us for a moment.

KAHNZILLA
10-05-2011, 04:47 PM
The tragic event was further away from the Chairmans Club than I thought and also a very steep climb and roll, a terrible day for sure. Thanks, KC

Unlimited Fan
10-26-2011, 05:46 AM
Looking at the vid again makes me wonder what Stewart Dawson in the Bear saw. Looks like he was not far behind the Ghost.

Acorn
10-26-2011, 08:24 AM
Looking at the vid again makes me wonder what Stewart Dawson in the Bear saw. Looks like he was not far behind the Ghost.

Yeah, some of us were talking about that. You've got to be aware of what the person you're hoping to pass is doing. So Stewart was probably watching him pretty close until he pulled up. Don't think I would have wanted to be in that position. I'm sure the NTSB talked to all the pilots though.

Unlimited Fan
10-26-2011, 08:40 AM
Yeah, it's a pretty helpless feeling no matter where you were viewing from. I imagine the FAA and NTSB spoke to the pilots.

gp70442
10-27-2011, 04:19 AM
I saw Stewart Dawson climb out of the Bear after he landed. He started talking to Rod and then some of the crew and was describing the pull-up, roll and crash in an animated sort of way. He definitely saw it all unfold.
Now, what he saw leading up to those events would be interesting to know.

GP