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Victor Archer
01-30-2009, 09:11 PM
http://www.pbase.com/image/108702335/original.jpg
Image up for comments and/or information for you to add...

jarrodeu
02-03-2009, 12:38 PM
What year was that picture taken? I assume warbird registry in correct that this is Merlin's Magic.

Jarrod

Victor Archer
02-04-2009, 08:10 PM
What year was that picture taken? I assume warbird registry in correct that this is Merlin's Magic.

Jarrod

It was taken in July of 1958.

T J Johansen
02-08-2009, 08:35 AM
There is something "fishy" about the history of this particular P-51D. It is claimed to have been sold to Haiti in 1969. However Darryl Greenamyer raced a gold painted P-51D regd. N5480V with the name "Barrena's Bronco" in the 1970 California 1000 at Mojave. Therefore it seems as though there has been some id swapping at one stage. Cool to see a photo of 80V in the orange colors though, never seen that before.

T J

Victor Archer
02-08-2009, 02:50 PM
Ah yes, good old Mustang stories from South America...
Aerofax Datagraph 1 North American F-51 Mustangs In Latin American Service by Dan Hagedorn does not list 44-73129 as being sold to Haiti which brings up a list of interesting questions...
Apparently there "reportedly" was some sort of cover up with two more Mustangs that were re-routed to El Salvador???
Whatever happened to "Barrena's Bronco" ?
Any one have or know where a pics of "Barrena's Bronco" can be found?
Did 44-73129 actually make it somewhere south of the border?
If "Barrena's Bronco" really was 44-73129 why was it listed as being recovered from Haiti???
Most likely it is one of six Mustangs that ended up in El Salvador but still they are all listed as being received in July of '69
One Interesting note I found a color photo of El Salvador FAS 409 as it was just returned to the states in 1974 and the original civil paint is showing through and it's the same orange as N5480V.....
So is "Kimberly Kaye" really 44-73129 today???

I'm in no way any kind of expert at these histories but I can see that the Orange color is the same and it's rather a unique color also it was reported that FAS 409 did have a couple paperwork swaps to get it back into the US.

:beerchug:

T J Johansen
02-10-2009, 02:53 PM
Just posted a question about N5480V over on Mustangsmustangs. Hope somebody will try to come up with some answers.

http://www.mustangsmustangs.us/thehangar/index.php?topic=1251.0

Where was your photo shot?
T J

Jitterbugman
02-25-2009, 11:07 AM
Mr. Archer:

I'd like to introduce myself. My name is John Dienst. For your information, I'm the co-author of the book that is entitled, "North American F-51 Mustangs In Latin American Air Force Service", that was published by Aerofax, Inc. Presently, I'm writing a number of articles on the history of the P-51 Mustang. Some of the topics are as follows:

(1) The first twenty-five years of civilian Mustang operations which includes the photographic history of N5480V.

(2) A history of the P-51D/F-51D in Air National Guard Service.

I'm writing in regards to obtaining high resolution scans (at least 300 dpi) of the P-51D N5480V that you recently posted on the Hangar Talk Forum. For the record, whenever possible, I prefer uncluttered full side views (B+W or color) for publication purposes. Any assistance you can give to me will be greatly appreciated. THANK YOU!

Sincerely,

John L. Dienst
Personal E-mail address: Dienst@hotmail.com

J.SMITH
03-11-2009, 05:15 PM
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I'm in no way any kind of expert at these histories but I can see that the Orange color is the same and it's rather a unique color also it was reported that FAS 409 did have a couple paperwork swaps to get it back into the US.

Victor, I was messing around and came across two p-51's with reference to FAS 409

111- P-51K 44-11153 (to FA Salvadorena as FAS 409) 9.68
29286 (recov. ex Salvador by Jack Flaherty .74)
N34FF Jack W. Flaherty/ Flaherty Factors Inc,
Monterey CA 1.11.74
Scott Smith, Orlando FL
William Clark/ Clark Motor Co, State College PA 79/85
(race #3 "Dolly")
N51WE Clark Motor Co, State College PA 9.85/88
crashed near State College PA (Clark k.) 7.3.88
Peter Regina, Van Nuys CA 29.10.98/99
N451TB Anthony J. Banta/ Banta Aviation Corp,
Livermore CA 18.5.00/02
(id. transferred to Indonesian AF F-350:
rest. at Van Nuys CA 98/02: see end of listing)
(USCR quotes N34FF/N51WE id. 44-11153:
also rep. to be 45-11559, FAS 409: que se)
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124- P-51D 45-11559 N5469V Michael E. Coutches/ American Aircraft Sales Co,
48312 • Hayward CA 58/62
Jim B. Tregoning, Bakersfield CA 63/64
Cavalier Burford Co International Corp, Maysville OK 66
N6451D Levitz Furniture Co, Dallas TX 69
Volkmer Manufacturing Co, Dallas TX 6.69
(to FA Salvadorena as FAS-401) 7.69
N30FF Jack W. Flaherty/ Flaherty Factors Inc,
Monterey CA 1.11.74
(id. also rep. as 44-11153/FAS-409: que se)
(rest., flew 75 as “USAF 5-11559” underwing drop tanks)
Ward Wilkins, Linden IN 78
Henry J. "Butch" Schroeder/ Midwest Aviation
Museum, Danville IL 82/95
(flew as "5-11559 North American Maid")
Paul Romine/ Warbird Operators Inc,
Indianapolis IN 6.5.95
Max Chapman/ Gardner Capital Management
Corp, New York NY 24.7.95/97
(rebuilt Fort Wayne IN 95/96 as TF-51D,
using new fuse. constructed at Chino, ff .96
as "511559/MX-A Red Dog/Mad Max")
N51MX Max Chapman/ Gardner Capital Management
Corp, New York NY 5.97/08
op: Stallion 51 Corp, Kissimmee FL 07/08
(repainted Goderich ONT 12.07, redel. to
Kissimmee 4.1.08 as “413464/MX-A Mad Max”)
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T J Johansen
03-12-2009, 05:09 PM
N5480V wore a white & blue paint job in the mid- sixties while Gary Levitz N6451D sported an orange scheme with a white stripe. Therefore it looks as though FAS 409 was N6451D. N30FF was also a Cavalier 51, not a stock a/c. N6451D was stock, and so was N34FF when it came back stateside.

T J

davidh
04-17-2010, 11:19 PM
Sorry to come to this thread a year late but I just came across the photo of 80V. At some time between 1966 and 1969 (sorry I can't be more precise) there was an all-orange Mustang parked in outside tie-down at the Allegheny County PA airport (AGH). I'm not sure how long it was there as I only saw it a few times. It was supposedly owned by a local doctor. I never photograhed it or recorded any identifying data but wish I had as I have since often wondered where it came from, who it belonged to and where it finally went. Any ideas? Anyone?