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Big_Jim
12-11-2008, 01:41 PM
I have heard some rumblings that this bird may be a racer soon?

http://fotodj.com/willow_run_static_displays/slides/EH05_034.html

Any confirmation?

I\\\\\\\'ve never seen it in person. How come a military scheme but no markings?

Inverted
12-11-2008, 03:57 PM
Looks like sept fury before she was painted. I think it was fury, maybe it was pops...

Doug Fisher
12-11-2008, 04:06 PM
That is Sandy Thompsons Sea Fury based in Hamilton, Ontario Canada.

Smee Again
12-11-2008, 05:28 PM
Interesting to note that it appears to have the oversized carbon-fiber spinner commonly used on racing Sea Furies. I'd love to see it turn the sticks in '09.

SA

supercub
12-11-2008, 05:58 PM
Where is Willow Run.......looks like one heck of an airshow. Is this a yearly event, would love to go.

retroaviation
12-11-2008, 06:45 PM
It was formally a Tmk.20, converted to a single seater years ago. I put the engine on this bird back in 2001, and it was a stock "dirty-three-filthy" then. I doubt it has been changed. If it were to race, it would probably end up somewhere in the Silver. The carbon fiber spinner is merely part of the firewall forward conversion that Nelson Ezell builds for the Sea Furies.

Hope that helps.

Gary

TWD
12-11-2008, 09:09 PM
Anybody got a picture as a T-20.
This would be a new one to me.
TJ

mayday51
12-12-2008, 12:43 AM
Where is Willow Run.......looks like one heck of an airshow. Is this a yearly event, would love to go.


Willow Run is west of Detroit,MI
Ford motor Co built B-24 bombers there during WWll
it does have a complicated history (for a smaller place)

here is a map link from the "Yankee Air Force" who are located there
(as is Kalitta Air and Jack Roush's hangers)

inhttp://www.yankeeairmuseum.org/contact-us.html/at Yspsilanti,MI

....the area was part of my youth's stomping grounds..........

T. Adams
12-12-2008, 07:08 AM
Where is Willow Run.......looks like one heck of an airshow. Is this a yearly event, would love to go.

Thunder Over Michigan is held there every year.

retroaviation
12-12-2008, 07:30 AM
Anybody got a picture as a T-20.
This would be a new one to me.
TJ

I don't have amy pictures of this airplane before it was modified, but it was being built in Canada, I think, by a fella who is no longer with us. Man, I just can't think of his name though. Nelson is the one that told me about the airplane's past, so I believe it to be true. Sorry I'm not more help than that. :dunno:

Gary

Race5
12-12-2008, 07:35 AM
I have heard some rumblings that this bird may be a racer soon?

http://fotodj.com/willow_run_static_displays/slides/EH05_034.html

Any confirmation?

I\\\\\\\'ve never seen it in person. How come a military scheme but no markings?


Actually I think it is the same owner, but different Sea Fury.

Peashooter
12-12-2008, 08:08 AM
Actually I think it is the same owner, but different Sea Fury.

The caption says "Chuck Greenhill." Even though that one was not his, he's since sold one and bought one... :thumbsup:

sierra fox
12-12-2008, 08:26 AM
you guys are all thinking of Chuck Greenhills "OTHER" Sea Fury :thumbsup:

Big_Jim
12-12-2008, 08:32 AM
Anybody know what the deal is with the paint scheme? Why no markings? I think it looks like a British scheme--too dark on top for an Australian job, and the Canadians were blue-grey.

Without the markings it looks kind of naked.

Sneauxman
12-12-2008, 09:06 AM
His "other" Sea Fury is called Furias. Chuck wants to race and win. The pieces are coming together.
Where do these new racer guys come from?

Lance
12-12-2008, 10:29 AM
Is DB Aero and Chuck Greenhill the same?

Serial Number 41H-636336 Type Registration Corporation
Manufacturer Name HAWKER AIRCRAFT LTD Certificate Issue Date 02/13/2008
Model SEA FURY F B II Status Valid
Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-Engine Type Engine Reciprocating
Pending Number Change None Dealer No
Date Change Authorized None Mode S Code 53337173
MFR Year None Fractional Owner NO


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Registered Owner

Name DB AERO INC
Street 3511 SILVERSIDE RD STE 105
City WILMINGTON State DELAWARE Zip Code 19810-4902
County NEW CASTLE
Country UNITED STATES

F-16 CREW CHIEF
12-12-2008, 10:31 AM
http://www.warbirddepot.com/aircraft_fighters_fury-thomson.asp This should help?

Big_Jim
12-12-2008, 11:22 AM
http://www.warbirddepot.com/aircraft_fighters_fury-thomson.asp This should help?

Good pics, thanks.

Anyone know how often this Sea Fury runs? Are there any rumors of this one racing, or was it just good hangar flying?

T. Adams
12-12-2008, 11:32 AM
His "other" Sea Fury is called Furias. Chuck wants to race and win. The pieces are coming together.
Where do these new racer guys come from?


Sssssshhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

Ken from PG
12-12-2008, 12:34 PM
Sssssshhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

It's OK Tim. They must mean the other other Seafury

Jason S.
12-12-2008, 04:25 PM
Anybody got a picture as a T-20.
This would be a new one to me.
TJ

Hey TJ, here is a picture of her back in the target tug days http://www.thomasgenth.de/Seaf9.jpg

Also, here is the web page I found it on with a great history of the German target tug Fury’s…… Critical Mass is even in there as well.
http://www.thomasgenth.de/html/zieldarsteller.html

Ken Dwelle
12-12-2008, 06:44 PM
I'm going to guess there was a dataplate change here or at a minimum the fuselage was swapped with one from an FB.11. The space occupied by the "small jump seat" is occupied by a substantial piece of structure on the T.20. This structure is intended to compensate for the T.20 rear cockpit cutting a big hole in the production break between the cockpit and the mid section. The existing FB.11 jump seat conversions stop short of that production break for this reason. Why would you go to the trouble of cutting all that out and re-engineering the airframe when the T.20 already had a "jumpseat". I also don't see the former rear cockpit step location or evidence of a patch there. It's possible but this doesn't make sense to me. There are several other FB.11's on the registry carrying T.20 registrations, most of them are former Iraqi aircraft which makes this case even more puzzling. I'd be curious to learn more about this.

Ken

Ken Dwelle
12-13-2008, 07:16 AM
Here's some more info from the WIX board which points to it being constructed from several Iraqi FB.11's.

http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=42420&sid=8cefd36eeb61adf71db31bbe41d8f1e3

Race5
12-14-2008, 06:27 PM
The Sander's site has a photo gallery up of the Furias move to Ione. Several questions have answers in these shots. http://www.sandersaircraft.com/aircraft_furias-move.asp

Peashooter
12-15-2008, 04:33 AM
The Sander's site has a photo gallery up of the Furias move to Ione. Several questions have answers in these shots. http://www.sandersaircraft.com/aircraft_furias-move.asp

And more questions, like -- Where were these engines going?

http://www.sandersaircraft.com/aircraft/furias-move/SAmw_0532-1024.jpg

Race5
12-15-2008, 05:15 AM
And more questions, like -- Where were these engines going?

http://www.sandersaircraft.com/aircraft/furias-move/SAmw_0532-1024.jpg

Going or coming? I was guessing they were spares that came with Furias.

King
12-15-2008, 05:34 AM
And more questions, like -- Where were these engines going?

http://www.sandersaircraft.com/aircraft/furias-move/SAmw_0532-1024.jpg

And even more questions like, who owns the twin Navion on the trailer in one of the last pictures.

gp70442
12-15-2008, 08:14 AM
Looks like we know what Kerch is doing next year....

GP

wingman
12-15-2008, 08:44 AM
I was wondering that too, along with noticing that Kerch was involved...

King
12-15-2008, 09:00 AM
I was wondering that too, along with noticing that Kerch was involved...

No more cats in the bag then.

Peashooter
12-15-2008, 12:58 PM
AIR ZURICH LLC

Peashooter
12-15-2008, 01:00 PM
Going or coming? I was guessing they were spares that came with Furias.

Going I think -- based on the photo order and it appears to be the same truck/trailer combo. Who is the race-ready 4360 guru?

wingman
12-15-2008, 01:19 PM
As I remember, the Sanders boys had a bunch of corncobs -- would make sense to be sending some out somewhere for rebuild and race prep for this new project...

laminar
12-16-2008, 07:16 AM
When I was there I saw like a dozen or more