Mig/ Griffon

[bluffman]

Since Reno is over with, I have something else to entertain all of you. I have been working on this concept for a while. What do you think?

Larry

[TOR_DP]

Re: Mig/ Griffon

Ooooh....

Ahhhh...

Griffons...

Try this one of for size:

Griffon in front... and Griffon in back... It just makes ya tingle with anticipation...



Face it, there's no cure.

[wolfee]

Re: Mig/ Griffon

Larry,

If you build it, it will fly!!!

Wolfee

[bluffman]

Re: Mig/ Griffon

This is another version, with a correction. It is supposed to be RR Moscow on the tail, not russia. I gave Roger O'Day incorrect info. (yeah, Roger from the old BMB crew). I had done a side view, but it was a little sloppy, so Roger fixed it up for me.I don't know the vodka company, but there slogan is: 3?OPBbE or something like that, translation: "For Your Health". I couldn't help myself, I just had to make the drawing RED, with Black trim, and then I got inspired and just had to put #88 on it! BMB-2, NO! (but it sure looks good)

I will post more later, gotta have some dinner.

Larry

[bluffman]

Re: Mig/ Griffon

Wayne, when you sent me that PM, I bet you had no idea what that was all about. I was trying to keep things quiet for a little while, but as we were looking for Migs and Griffons, some people started catching on. I wanted to get it to you before it got anywhere else, you're the MAN!
I reckon we should get some activity on this thread.

Thanks for everything Wayne.

Larry

[Jason S.]

Re: Mig/ Griffon

Hi Larry, that’s definitely a cool concept but do you think it would be doable with the Mig sitting so low to the ground and having to cut a prop down so much?

[AAFO_WSagar]

Re: Mig/ Griffon

Shoot ohboy howdy! Who'd a thunk that

this

woulda' begat

that!!



But we were kidding... Somehow, I don't think Larry is!

[bluffman]

Re: Mig/ Griffon

Jason, That's the part I am zero-ing in on now, I think I have come up with a solution.

Gotta make it happen!
I've learned more about Migs and Griffons than I ever wanted to know, but it has sure been fun.

Larry

[hm66sk]

Re: Mig/ Griffon

Hi Larry, that’s definitely a cool concept but do you think it would be doable with the Mig sitting so low to the ground and having to cut a prop down so much?

Easy, make it a taildragger. Now, ditch the problematic contra rotating props and you might be on to something!

[Leo]

Re: Mig/ Griffon

Reminds me of the XF-84H Thunderscreech. That had just shy of 6,000 HP. Sure looks cool, and I bet it would sound, well, more than sexy.
Two questions; can you get enough HP out of a Griffon to make it go fast enough and is there any rule in the unlimited's about wing sweep?

[Lance]

Re: Mig/ Griffon

Is there enough room between the cockpit and the nose to fit a Griffon? Seems like the pilot would be sitting right on top of the motor.

[Leo]

Re: Mig/ Griffon

Bury it in the fuse with an extension shaft...

[Big_Jim]

Re: Mig/ Griffon

I wonder if a MiG-21 fuselage/wing might not be better suited for such a conversion?

[Leo]

Re: Mig/ Griffon

How would a delta do on the pylons? I never pictured them as a high perfomance turning planform. I'm not an aero engineer tho. PLUS it would be mucho heavier I would think and the Griffon only can do so much. I like the lightened Mig-15, mid engine, fair off the exhaust. Keep the airbrakes and use them on the chute to keep the power settings high. Get Leeward to fly it, he has pylon Mig time!
Cool idea Bluffman.

[AirDOGGe]

Re: Mig/ Griffon

Is there enough room between the cockpit and the nose to fit a Griffon? Seems like the pilot would be sitting right on top of the motor.

With that wing-sweep, the engine would HAVE to be located behind the pilot for weight-and-balance reasons, P-39 style.