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glider90
12-19-2004, 11:51 AM
Not sure if this belongs here or in the historic section, but I was going through and scanning some of my fathers slides and found this...
~Jim

glider90
12-19-2004, 12:43 PM
Not sure why it will not let me edit that post, but I wanted to replace that image with this one, it scanned much better.
~Jim

T. Adams
12-19-2004, 12:57 PM
Can't really say if I like it, but that is one interesting paint job. I don't recall ever seeing a pic of this plane before.

glider90
12-19-2004, 01:36 PM
Here is a better known racer. Still learning about this scanner. I have aquired a Nikon Coolscan 4000 ED, I am hoping Mark K. will be around soon to give me some pointers!
~Jim

Unregistered
12-19-2004, 02:16 PM
TIPSY MISS.......I belive taken in Reno 1976 races....looks
like Frank Tallman's Duck brhind it.

Unregistered
12-19-2004, 07:13 PM
If I remember the story right, that paint job was the result of a colaberation over a bottle of whiskey. No kidding.

Shawn Aro
12-19-2004, 07:29 PM
Thats Ken Burnstine Miss suzy Q it won the 1974 Races when Lyle Shelton got dis qulifiled and Bob Love got disquilfiled and in 1976 the plane crashed in the desert after arriving at the Mojave Races.

Shawn

glider90
12-19-2004, 08:22 PM
One more for now. I have more, if there is interest I wil put them in the history section.
~Jim

W J Pearce
12-19-2004, 08:27 PM
Jim,

Keep it up. It is great to see some of the old stuff. Thanks for putting them up.

Bill Pearce

AirDOGGe
12-19-2004, 08:41 PM
Not sure why it will not let me edit that post, but I wanted to replace that image with this one, it scanned much better.

The forum only allows you to edit posts up to 30 minutes after you hit SUBMIT, and then makes 'em permanent afterwards.

By the way, cool pic! I never saw that bird before anywhere.

wingman
12-19-2004, 08:49 PM
Glider90 -- These scans really look quite good! If you Google "Scantips" you'll find a website with an excellent discussion of scanning both negatives and slides, as well as printed material. This is where I learned most of what I know about scanning.

Neal

Air Race Addict
12-19-2004, 10:23 PM
Not sure if this belongs here or in the historic section, but I was going through and scanning some of my fathers slides and found this...
~Jim
Hey Jim,
Awesome picture. The second scan is beautiful. I think it belongs right where it is, HAH! The first Reno I went to was in 74, (as Shawn attested to above), and Ken Bernstein was indeed the pilot. Thanks for jogging the old memory. Wish the pictures I have were that nice. This was the race that started my madness, heh, heh.
Bill (aka: Air Race Addict) :1zhelp: ME PLEASE :rolleyes:

Pylon1_Mark
12-20-2004, 01:18 AM
Here is a better known racer. Still learning about this scanner. I have aquired a Nikon Coolscan 4000 ED, I am hoping Mark K. will be around soon to give me some pointers!
~Jim
Hi Jim... here's some tips for you (or how I do the scans) on the Nikon SC4000ED. I usually scan at 4000 DPI at 50% - giving me a very workable raw image size of 2891x1973 at just over 16 megs (bmp). On the scanner settings, if there is a noticeable grain - then I will use the GEM tool set at 3... and if it ISN'T Kodak Kodachrome film, I always use the Digital ICE to eliminate the dust spots. I never use the ROC settings as I have found that it's much better to use Adobe Photoshop to correct color irregularities then using the scanner's software, which seems to be rather limited (being an "all or nothing" affair). Adobe just lets me fine tune the colors a lot better.

After the "raw scan" is done, the usual post-processing includes resizing the image by 50%, then 90%, then a series of 98% (if needed for a full frame image) and crop to a final "archival" size of 1148x768. After this is done, the hardest part of the job remains... color correction.

Newer slide film like Fuji Provia yields exceptional results by just clicking the "auto contrast" in adobe. But on most older slides/negatives - there is a LOT more involved. I usually just use my eye as a judge, and apply a varied amount of different color variations (Adobe 6.0 and newer has all this built in) and messing with the color saturations & hues of the various color shades to yield the best result.This can be rather time consuming, and you must remember what you use so that all the pictures look consistent and not like they were taken by a different person all together (which is a separate challenge all to itself).

Hit me up if you have any other questions or need any assistance. I love messing with happy pictures - and do find the post processing stuff most rewarding & challenging.

Pic #1 is a raw scan of 25ASA Kodak Ektar Negative film (circa 1992)
Pic #2 is one that has gone through post-processing

Pylon1_Mark
12-20-2004, 01:54 AM
BTW: the scans looks great... just need a little post-processing help :)
I should add that everyone's monitor displays things a bit differently, so as a result, what looks great on one may not look great on another. ;)

glider90
12-20-2004, 06:38 AM
Thanks for the kind words everyone, and for the tips Mark! Nice work on the post processing touch. I have Adobe 6.0, and it looks like that is what I need to be learning more aboout.

I was scanning the files too large at first, too small after that, I think your method will help me quite a bit.

I know that these images were taken at Oshkosh, but somwhere my dad should have some slides from the races at Cape May, New Jersey and Cleveland. Once I find those there could be allot more to share.

~jim

speeddemon
12-20-2004, 08:04 AM
Man, I know I always seem to take flak over this...but that is STILL one of the best paint jobs ever to show up at Reno! Everything about it is wrong...just totally wrong. But that's what made it so great.

Not sure if that Tegler 'story' about the bottle of DeWars scotch is true or not...but it sure does make the story fun.

AAFO_WSagar
12-20-2004, 11:09 AM
The forum only allows you to edit posts up to 30 minutes after you hit SUBMIT, and then makes 'em permanent afterwards.
That option was put in back a while when we were having some... shall we say, disagreements here on the forum. If editing of posts *is* enabled, then in a disagreement, an unscruplous person could go back and change the content of their post, this *could* lead to an esclation of a "disagreement" by making it look, for instance, like someone overreacted to something someone said when the orignal comment might now have been changed...

Sometimes the settings used on message boards seem distractingly silly even to the person who sets them, that is, until there is a.... ."disagreement" and something nasty happens.

This place has been extremely civil since everyone feels that they "own" what they say and that everyone basically knows who everyone is "behind" their screen name..

Dat's all good!!

Wayne

T. Adams
12-20-2004, 11:40 AM
25ASA Kodak Ektar Negative film

Boy, I remember using a lot of this stuff with the old Minolta X-700. Too bad I did not know what the heck I was doing back then.

Shawn Aro
12-20-2004, 04:16 PM
I do belive in the July issue of the Nag Rag there a story about ken Burnstien by my dad a very interisting story called a blast form the past

Shawn :)

Pylon1_Mark
12-20-2004, 06:00 PM
25ASA Kodak Ektar Negative film

Boy, I remember using a lot of this stuff with the old Minolta X-700. Too bad I did not know what the heck I was doing back then.
Well, that makes two of us :D

AirDOGGe
12-20-2004, 08:07 PM
That option was put in back a while when we were having some... shall we say, disagreements here on the forum. If editing of posts *is* enabled, then in a disagreement, an unscruplous person could go back and change the content of their post, this *could* lead to an esclation of a "disagreement" by making it look, for instance, like someone overreacted to something someone said when the orignal comment might now have been changed...

And I'm all for it. Many times I have faced that very situation in the game forums I admin at. Another case was the new guy who posted a question, received several good replies, then went back and changed his post to "OK...Next question...blah blah", thus making all the responses to his first query useless, since future readers would not know what the original question was.

Those forums use the SNITZ forum software, and I don't think snitz has such a time-limited edit option.