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    I have been gathering info on small aeroplanes and I found out that downsizing gives the advantage.

    Tsunami with some success tried this.
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    Re: What could be the ultimate lap speed in RENO ?

    Depends.. maybe, if there is an Area 51 electro-magnetic anti-G-vortex bell class allowed..

    But seriously..

    Speaking of which, do the Gold Class unlimited jockeys utilize modern G-suits?

    Some of those WW2 recips' were G-stressed for ~+14..
    Last edited by J.A.W.; 05-30-2013, 01:55 AM.

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    • #3
      Re: What could be the ultimate lap speed in RENO ?

      Originally posted by J.A.W. View Post
      Depends.. maybe, if there is an Area 51 electro-magnetic anti-G-vortex bell class allowed..

      But seriously..

      Speaking of which, do the Gold Class unlimited jockeys utilize modern G-suits?

      Some of those WW2 recips' were G-stressed for ~+14..
      Size reduction was thoroughly studied in 1970ies.

      Pilot seat was reclined 57 degs ( normal 34-45 ).
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      • #4
        Re: What could be the ultimate lap speed in RENO ?

        I'm sure Wild Bill or Thom can enlighten us further but I do believe Thom Richard had a G-suit for 2012, Legs only if my memory isn't fuzzy, I also heard that it was a Nitrogen operated system and with the G- No G enviroment happening constantly it burned through the bottle pretty fast.

        No idea if it was worth it. now we get to wait for the people in the know to fill in the blanks.

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        • #5
          Re: What could be the ultimate lap speed in RENO ?

          We were the only one's with a G-Suit last year. It came back with an empty bottle EVERY HEAT. Funny things that you can find on ebay.

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          • #6
            Re: What could be the ultimate lap speed in RENO ?

            The G-suit system was very effective. I found a brand new (US) suit (the right size), a brand new G-valve, purchased a new regulator and a new N2 bottle and installed the system in one afternoon. The entire thing weighed 23 lbs. It was not cumbersome at all. They say it increases your G tolerance by about one G. But what I found even more valuable is that it reminds you when to strain. Sometimes you're busy and strain a little later than you should for maximum effect. The G-suit made it very simple. The PM cockpit is quite small, but the G-suit did not interfere with anything. It was very comfortable. The only draw back is that it does not breathe much. It does get hot. However, the cool suit T-shirt I wear takes care of that. I could sit on the ramp in the sun and feel like I was in the air conditioning.

            The G-suit is definitely not necessary for racing. The onset of G and the values are very manageable. However it does increase the comfort level with what we do in those cockpits to a great degree. I definitely intend to continue its use. I like it a lot and would recommend it to anyone.

            As far as longevity, it does vent nitrogen at all times so it'll last about 15 minutes on the course with the little bottle I have. More than needed. I turn the valve on coming down the chute.

            Now here's the question, guess what the entire system cost me?

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            • #7
              Re: What could be the ultimate lap speed in RENO ?

              Originally posted by Thom Richard View Post
              Now here's the question, guess what the entire system cost me?
              Folks are going to sit back and laugh when you tell them. I know I did!

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              • #8
                Re: What could be the ultimate lap speed in RENO ?

                Originally posted by Wild Bill Kelso View Post
                Folks are going to sit back and laugh when you tell them. I know I did!
                Let's start the bids at 1200...........

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                • #9
                  Re: What could be the ultimate lap speed in RENO ?

                  Just the legs? I'd say $300 ~ $350.

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                  • #10
                    Re: What could be the ultimate lap speed in RENO ?

                    $79.99 plus $15 for shipping on the "BUY IT NOW" button?

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                    • #11
                      Re: What could be the ultimate lap speed in RENO ?

                      Originally posted by Arctic Cat View Post
                      $79.99 plus $15 for shipping on the "BUY IT NOW" button?
                      Silly isn't it?!

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                      • #12
                        Re: What could be the ultimate lap speed in RENO ?

                        Increases in lap speeds are seeing the top of the curve, but on a perfect day etc. with all the bells working and a boiler cooling system, Strega could see 530+.
                        The wing is close to Vne then and the HP to go 1% faster needs to increase on the order of 5%+.
                        Will it happen?

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                        • #13
                          Re: What could be the ultimate lap speed in RENO ?

                          Suit
                          G-valve
                          Hoses
                          N2 bottle
                          Regulator
                          Hardware
                          Shipping
                          _____________

                          $352.-

                          Quite possibly one of the best investments in air racing environmental equipment history...

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                            Re: What could be the ultimate lap speed in RENO ?

                            with all the bells working and a boiler cooling system, Strega could see 530+.
                            Ok Mike, so that begs the question, what could we see without a boil-off system?

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                            • #15
                              Re: What could be the ultimate lap speed in RENO ?

                              & Mike, would that speed be actual TAS, by ground speed/transponder/GPS reckoning or.. IAS on the ASI?

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